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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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10-02-2006, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by asskicker
I agree they both need to put up or shut up. What I thought made Dana look so bad is when Millen asked what happened between now and UFC 61 to make Wand/Chuck not happen other than Silva got executed, Dana completly changed the subject. We all know there is no shame in getting beat by Cro Cop. Well most of us anyway, and that its no excuse to cancel the fight. Dont get me wrong Ive always liked Dana but I dont like him in this interview at all.
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yeah... dana's excuse was that silva got executed.... "by the number 2 fighter in the world" he happened to leave out... "who also happens to be in PRIDE"... jerk... lol
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10-02-2006, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pt447
wait wait wait... you're saying that in the UFC, there's more of a ground game than in PRIDE because of the cage? are you serious? all the cage does is provide a wall for people like hughes to push people up against and rain elbows down on... are you really saying that the UFC has a more in depth ground game than PRIDE??? wow... you've obviously never seen PRIDE cause nobody just goes out the ropes in PRIDE to escape, since if that happens, they're restarted in the same position in the middle of the ring. you can't escape a position in PRIDE by doing that. you have obviously never seen a single PRIDE fight!!!
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Im not saying PRIDE doesn't have a ground game, im just saying in pride you can hide under ropes to get resets, for you NON MMA nubs that watch tv so they think they know everything, when you get a reset it takes away alot of the attackers momentum and also resets can allow you to get your air real quick.
Act like you know more then me, because its really showing.
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10-02-2006, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Spit206Fire
Im not saying PRIDE doesn't have a ground game, im just saying in pride you can hide under ropes to get resets, for you NON MMA nubs that watch tv so they think they know everything, when you get a reset it takes away alot of the attackers momentum and also resets can allow you to get your air real quick.
Act like you know more then me, because its really showing.
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wow... arrogant much???
i know it halts the momentum of the fights, i'm not a freaking ignoramous. my god. the thing is... if i was to pick a more fare setup, it'd be the ring... since you can't just hold your opponent down with a knee and elbow the guy till you cut him. and your momentum argument isn't too hefty, since it hasn't seemed to have hurt the excitement or the pace, or the action of the fights in PRIDE. personally, they're more exciting cause you know that nobody's gunna get scrunched up and held.
in the UFC, "you can't hold or use the cage", yet that's exactley how Hughes holds his title, by pushing guys up against it and actually "using" it to hold them into place. |
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10-02-2006, 02:56 PM
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thats so cool I hope Dana White shows up to the pride show
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10-02-2006, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pt447
wow... arrogant much???
i know it halts the momentum of the fights, i'm not a freaking ignoramous. my god. the thing is... if i was to pick a more fare setup, it'd be the ring... since you can't just hold your opponent down with a knee and elbow the guy till you cut him. and your momentum argument isn't too hefty, since it hasn't seemed to have hurt the excitement or the pace, or the action of the fights in PRIDE. personally, they're more exciting cause you know that nobody's gunna get scrunched up and held.
in the UFC, "you can't hold or use the cage", yet that's exactley how Hughes holds his title, by pushing guys up against it and actually "using" it to hold them into place.
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Its part of the cage they fight in. It doesnt stop momentum in the fight. Its skill to manuever the octagon. There is no skill in a reset. For someone like Ortiz, as soon as he is raining elbows, someone could pull the rope, and Ortiz looses his probably TKO, and gets centered. Thats just an example, Ortiz wont fight in Pride as he has mentioned before.
Pride's ground game is DIFFERENT than the UFC. Whats better is really a matter of opinion. |
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10-02-2006, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by spearsoldier
Pride's ground game is DIFFERENT than the UFC. Whats better is really a matter of opinion.
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I couldn't agree more.
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10-02-2006, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by spearsoldier
Its part of the cage they fight in. It doesnt stop momentum in the fight. Its skill to manuever the octagon. There is no skill in a reset. For someone like Ortiz, as soon as he is raining elbows, someone could pull the rope, and Ortiz looses his probably TKO, and gets centered. Thats just an example, Ortiz wont fight in Pride as he has mentioned before.
Pride's ground game is DIFFERENT than the UFC. Whats better is really a matter of opinion.
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i still consider it "using the cage" which is expressley forbidden in the rules... not like its possible to enforce any of the UFC's rules anyway... but still... |
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10-02-2006, 08:19 PM
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dana won the arguement and pride is just loosing. they are just trying to use UFC Fighters for their own publicity. If liddell and wandy fight Liddell Ko's Wandy.  |
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10-02-2006, 08:56 PM
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I dont know I think Dana might be scarred because he has more to lose than Pride with this fight. As for the cage being a disadvantage. Both fighters can use it theres the same advantages and disadvantages for everyone in a fight. So it really doesnt matter.
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