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Old 10-03-2006, 01:13 PM   #41 (permalink)
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what's this PRIDE guy/UFC guy buisness? i prefer PRIDE so i get a label?
Yea, from the guy who just called UFC fans, UFC nuthuggers. Nice one, you came across as a real star here.

First of all, Fedor is a beast and everyone knows it, but he got taken to a decision by Babalu who got knocked out twice by Chuck Liddel so if you're going by win/loss records between companies, that doesn't stand up too well for Pride.

Secondly, Dana probably doesn't want Fedor for a few reasons. Firstly, he would beat Slyiva but also to make money for the UFC, he wants a Pride guy who could properly challenge the biggest name in the UFC at the minute, Chuck Liddel. I mean, I'd love to see Sylvia - Fedor but the Silva - Liddel just seems like such a better fight and would draw so much money and interest for the UFC and Pride also.

Finally, if Pride's such a great company (I really enjoy Pride), send over their top light heavyweight and see what he can do against the UFCs. UFC sent over Liddel, now it's time for Pride to return the favour before talking about other fights.
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Old 10-03-2006, 01:17 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I disagree about the ring. I've seen to many pride fighters grab on to the be kept from being taken down and I don't care for the restart. I think it changes the direction of the fight.

Pt, wasn't labeling you, just throwing out the ufc vs. pride arguments that I read here. They make no sense, kind of like the Matt Hughes comment as most of his submissions or ref. stoppages have occurred in the middle of the cage. I am a homer for certain sports teams and think they are better than all others, I just don't think that way about mma orgs.
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Old 10-03-2006, 03:29 PM   #43 (permalink)
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That's the point! Dana won't allow Pride to send over just any fighter. If that was the case, Pride would send over Fedor which would shut up the UFC and Dana White. Dana wants Silva because he use to fight in the UFC and was beat badly before he left to Pride, Dana thinks the same will happen. Liddell is Dana's *****/poster boy, who also happens to be in the same weight class as Silva, so Silva is the ideal fighter from Pride to fight in the UFC against Liddell.

Imagine if Rampage were still in Pride, Dana wouldn't want him in the UFC because he owned Liddell. Chuck did win in Pride before losing to Rampage, so you gotta give up to Chuck, he is good and that's why he is champion.

Everybody should watch UFC 1, they explain the purpose of the cage/octagon. In 1993, SEG wanted to bring in different fighters with different styles to fight under the same rules and crown one winner. The octagon was made because at that time, it didn't give any style of fighting or any fighter an advantage. The octagon was neutral ground. Fast forward to 2006, same scenario, fighters fight in the octagon but the difference is the octagon is not neutral anymore. Some fighters can take advantage of it now, some fighters have octagons in their gyms. I've seen fighters grab the cage with their hand or feet to give them a better position, that is an advantage. Just get rid of the octagon already, it's not cool anymore.
exactley! it served a purpouse once, and was a huge gimmicky draw, but now it is nothing more than a weapon that can be used!
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Old 10-03-2006, 05:18 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I disagree about the ring. I've seen to many pride fighters grab on to the be kept from being taken down and I don't care for the restart. I think it changes the direction of the fight.
I've seen too many UFC fighters hold on the cage to keep from being taken down and the refs do nothing. There are people on the outside of the ring, in Pride, that move the ropes so people would let go or take their foot off of it. Nothing happens in the octagon.
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Old 10-03-2006, 05:27 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I've seen too many UFC fighters hold on the cage to keep from being taken down and the refs do nothing. There are people on the outside of the ring, in Pride, that move the ropes so people would let go or take their foot off of it. Nothing happens in the octagon.
good point... in PRIDE, the refs are actively trying to provent stoppages and "mash-ups"... while in the UFC, the ref says; "no holding the fense". and what does that do? honestly... i think the only think the UFC needs, is to impliment yellow cards! i couldn't care less about the cage, except for the fact that it is specifically used by fighters because they know there is no way to punish them for it. even, and especially, the UFC champs, like Silvia, have constantly held the fense to pummel opponents, or used it to move themselves out of harms way... its insane, unprofessional, and an oversight that too many people forgive!

in order for the UFC to be legitimate, i really think it needs a way to actually inforce the rules it claims to uphold!!!
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