Ufc & Pride Executives Clash On Sirius Radio - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-01-2006, 09:01 PM Thread Starter
MMA Fanatic
GSPFAN's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Surrey,B.C.
Posts: 63
Ufc & Pride Executives Clash On Sirius Radio

Pride USA producer Jerry Millen was recently a guest on Scott Ferrall's radio show on Sirius Satellite Radio, and an explosive verbal confrontation ensued when UFC president Dana White called into the show during Millen's interview.

The vast majority of the disagreements between White and Millen were focused on the now-cancelled fight between the UFC's Chuck Liddell and Pride's Wanderlei Silva.

For readers who are unfamiliar with the situation, the Liddell-Silva fight was announced by White during the UFC 61 event on July 8th, but no actual contracts were signed at the time. Negotiations between the UFC and Pride broke down shortly thereafter, despite the fact that by all accounts both Liddell and Silva want the fight to happen.

Also, while the UFC and Pride have both subsequently made conflicting statements on the matter, MMAWeekly was told by sources in mid-August (and reported in the Rumors section) that the Liddell-Silva fight was already off at that time. This was not only before Silva fought Mirko Cro Cop, but it was also before Liddell fought Renato "Babalu" Sobral.

Nevertheless, both sides stuck to their guns during the interview, and the result was a lot of contentious back-and-forth exchanges.

There has been some misinformation about what was and wasn't said during the interview, so we hope to clear up any misconceptions by using actual quotes based on the actual audio.

During the interview, White said, "I've been trying to do Wanderlei [Silva] vs. Chuck [Liddell] for five years... not to mention the fact, didn't Wanderlei just get executed? ... Nobody buys their [Pride] pay-per-views in the United States, so I'll let everyone know what happened. Wanderlei Silva got beat to death for the first two rounds, then got his head kicked to another planet."

Millen responded by saying, "First two rounds? Dana, did you watch the fight? The fight didnít go past the first round. Did one of your assistants type up a memo for you?"

White responded by saying, "I was the one guy that watched it on the Internet over here in the United States."

Millen later said, "Put your guys up. If you have such a great stable, put them up... make it [Liddell vs. Silva] happen. What's the hold up?" White responded to Millen's question by saying, "Silva just got knocked dead in the first round."

On the same subject, White later said, "Iíve been willing to do it for the last five years, they havenít been. Now Wanderlei gets executed almost into a coma, and now they want to make the fight."

Millen said later in the interview, "Let me ask you this. You announced on your pay-per-view that if Chuck beats Babalu and Wanderlei is able to fight, the fightís going to happen. What happened between the time you made the announcement on the pay-per-view till now? Besides going, 'Oh, he got executed,' what in the negotiations process broke down to make this fight not happen?"

In response to Millen's question, White posed a question of his own, asking if Millen is aware of the problems that Pride is having in Japan (losing the Fuji TV deal, etc). Millen replied, "I'm just asking you why this fight is not happening," at which point White said, "This is exactly why it's not happening, because you [Pride] are having a lot of problems."

At that point, Millen said, "Youíre saying itís not going to happen because you donít want it to happen, correct?" Both sides were very agitated, and White's response was, "You guys say youíre going to do something and you never f---ing do it."

When the host of the show later asked if White was ready to restart negotiations with Pride, White said, "Iím sick of them, but if they want to give us Wanderlei Silva to fight in the UFC, Iím in."

At one point in the interview, White questioned how much the Pride USA producer knew about the negotiations and said to Millen, "You don't know s---" at which point Millen shot the same inflammatory statement back at White.

When Millen asked White, "Why wouldnít you give us Tim Sylvia?" White responded by saying "because he [Sylvia] is fighting on November 18th." Millen then asked, "Why won't you throw him in a Pride fight?" to which White responded, "Why the f--- would I throw him in a Pride fight, you retard, when he's going to fight in my fight?"

White later said, "You guys donít do any pay-per-view buys here in America and you got kicked off television in Japan. Of course youíre going to come over here and want my fighters in your show. You guys suck, so of course you need them."

Later in the interview, Millen invited White to attend Pride's debut show in the United States, and White accepted the invitation.

Millen said, "Dana, listen. October 21st, I have a pair of ringside Pride tickets for you so that you can see what a real MMA event is like." White's response: "I'll be there."

GSPFAN is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #2 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-01-2006, 09:07 PM
MMA freak's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 1,901
I thought Jerry Millen used to be a UFC judge if I'm not mistaken.
MMA freak is offline  
post #3 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-01-2006, 09:22 PM
liveson777's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,749
i wanna fight dana

in the octagon...no one watchs Prode hahahahha yea right...hes so scared Pride is gonna take over
liveson777 is offline  
post #4 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-01-2006, 09:23 PM
liveson777's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,749
ohh yea

thnx for tha article im glad to hear something about this subject..u get rep for that
liveson777 is offline  
post #5 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-01-2006, 09:33 PM
Free Thinker
pt447's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In your closet!
Posts: 5,673
Blog Entries: 1
wow, dana's a real class act... sure showed everyone what american buisness men are made of... ****ing jerk! he's a goddamn azzhole!!!

whiskey, racism, money, grease, twinkie's, guns.....yep lol thats about it


pt447 is offline  
post #6 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-01-2006, 09:35 PM
This is SPARTA!
Kameleon's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 5,495
Blog Entries: 4
Nice find. White is such an idiot, "Silva got executed" well duh, he was out of his weight division and out classed. The doctors could clear him medically, and he would be able to fight but Dana is scared of what Pride "can do". They have a lot of potential and can do big things in the US. I hope White does show up to the show but I doubt he will. IMO, I think the only reason Pride wants UFC fighters on their cards, is so they can prove to the US audience that Pride has better fighters.

Kameleon is offline  
post #7 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-01-2006, 09:56 PM
theboz19's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 295
Market Share!!

Dana White is doing the right thing. UFC owns almost 100% of the market share on MMA in the US and Canada. If he was to allow a UFC champion, Tim Sylvia, to fight in a Pride show, it only moves UFC fans to Pride. It would not bring Pride fans to UFC. The Silva argument has been settled due to the fact that the US will not allow a fighter who has been KO'd to fight for 90 days. All of us fight fans can whine and cry about not getting to see the match ups that we want but we keep buying the PPV's with the crappy match ups so why would they change? The cage is still way better than the ring.


theboz19 is offline  
post #8 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-01-2006, 10:29 PM
canadian champ
moldy's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sask, Canada
Posts: 1,522
I hate the cage. Crappy fighter's get cheap wins when they pin a guy on the cage. I like the restart in the middle of a ring. I also disagree that ufc fans will go to pride and vis versa if silvia was to fight in pride. They just want to see a good fight. Same with wand and chuck. Everyone knows dana likes to protect his golden boys. He is cheap and that's why his talent pool is drying up. Why didn't he sign heath herring, or rampage. He could be so good for the sport but isn't. He doesn't want these fight's to happen cause pride will get the revenue generated by people who really want to see these fight's. It's all about money.
moldy is offline  
post #9 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-01-2006, 11:18 PM
asskicker's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Posts: 3,763
This interview made Dana look really bad. I think Millen won this arguement in every aspect.

14-1 in Forum Bets
asskicker is offline  
post #10 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-02-2006, 12:02 AM
True Grappler
IronMan's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New York City, New York
Posts: 6,222
I have a lot of respect of Dana White and what he has done for MMA in America, but he is really losing my respect with his displays of knowledge on MMA.

He should throw together this card with PRIDE, I'm sure they could split the profits on this and eat well:

Fedor v Sylvia
Crocop v Arlovski
Wandy v Liddell
Henderson v Franklin
Gomi v Sherk
Aurelio v KenFlo

maybe throw on Barnett v Monson, Belfort v Shamrock and Shogun v Ortiz and I'd be happy.

Sig by Toxic

Barnett - Toquinho -Werdum - "Nurmie"
Z. Gurgel - Morango - Rocha - Tiequan
IronMan is offline  

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome