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Old 10-05-2006, 10:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think Shogun might give Fedor a run for his money. We'll see after the Real Deal how Fedor is after the long lay-off, and how Shogun deals with a strong GNP guy....Keep in mind, Shogun is a physical presence - most of you saw the Shogun- Rampage fight (if you didn't, go to dailymotion or something, it's definitely worth watching).
Let's try to forsee a couple of things:

1. Fedor on top - Shogun is in trouble but he is a BJJ black belt and can probably last a round (I won't say he can pull a sub off cuz Nog couldnt do it). Fedor will not try passing guard, he'll try to work the GnP and try to avoid the potential silly submission - I guess i did say he can pull it off .
2. Shogun on top - he'll probably stand up as soon as possible if he's not able to work himself into atleast side-control.
3. Standing up - I beleive that they are rather evenly matched; Fedor is Fedor and Shogun is probably top three Muay Thai in Pride (Mirko + Wand)
4. Clinch - Shogun might actually have an advantage here due to his ability to throw knee strikes regardless of position (over-under, under hooks, greco roman overhooks). All in all, he did beat a very strong Quinton Jackson in the clinch - that's where i beleive he caused the most damage.

All in all, he does have a shot on paper, and his cardio is definitely good enough to last three rounds of grueling combat.
As far as being deserving, he certainly is. 2005 fighter of the year; Arona, Overeem, Jackson, Rogerio Nogueira- that's a pretty hefty 205lbs list.
As far as getting a shot at HW - well he deserves a shot at MW but he's not gonna take it because his friend and mentor is the belt holder. You gotta give the guy something, and if Mirko can't fight then give it to Shogun. Why give it to Nog again? And why give it to Barnett he has lost to CroCop three times (okay ,okay 2.5 times).
To conlcude, why not give him the shot? What does Pride have to lose? It promises to be an entartaining match-up and it will give Shogun a chance to see how good he is when it comes to fighting at HW. You'll all be glad he got a shot if he gets it after you see the fight, beleive that.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think Shogun might give Fedor a run for his money. We'll see after the Real Deal how Fedor is after the long lay-off, and how Shogun deals with a strong GNP guy....Keep in mind, Shogun is a physical presence - most of you saw the Shogun- Rampage fight (if you didn't, go to dailymotion or something, it's definitely worth watching).
Let's try to forsee a couple of things:

1. Fedor on top - Shogun is in trouble but he is a BJJ black belt and can probably last a round (I won't say he can pull a sub off cuz Nog couldnt do it). Fedor will not try passing guard, he'll try to work the GnP and try to avoid the potential silly submission - I guess i did say he can pull it off .
2. Shogun on top - he'll probably stand up as soon as possible if he's not able to work himself into atleast side-control.
3. Standing up - I beleive that they are rather evenly matched; Fedor is Fedor and Shogun is probably top three Muay Thai in Pride (Mirko + Wand)
4. Clinch - Shogun might actually have an advantage here due to his ability to throw knee strikes regardless of position (over-under, under hooks, greco roman overhooks). All in all, he did beat a very strong Quinton Jackson in the clinch - that's where i beleive he caused the most damage.

All in all, he does have a shot on paper, and his cardio is definitely good enough to last three rounds of grueling combat.
As far as being deserving, he certainly is. 2005 fighter of the year; Arona, Overeem, Jackson, Rogerio Nogueira- that's a pretty hefty 205lbs list.
As far as getting a shot at HW - well he deserves a shot at MW but he's not gonna take it because his friend and mentor is the belt holder. You gotta give the guy something, and if Mirko can't fight then give it to Shogun. Why give it to Nog again? And why give it to Barnett he has lost to CroCop three times (okay ,okay 2.5 times).
To conlcude, why not give him the shot? What does Pride have to lose? It promises to be an entartaining match-up and it will give Shogun a chance to see how good he is when it comes to fighting at HW. You'll all be glad he got a shot if he gets it after you see the fight, beleive that.
Good Quote Shogun is one of th best Pride fighters going right now. this should be one hell of a fight. But I still gotta go with Fedor by submission, probably a kumora.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I say Fedor by stoppage.
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Old 10-06-2006, 12:00 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I say Fedor by stoppage.
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Old 10-06-2006, 10:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
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is this 100% going down?? whats wrong with mirko..im out of the loop here..the site i usually post at and get my news from has been down..
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:19 AM   #16 (permalink)
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i think the fact that no heavyweight was found for replacement just shows how much no1 wants to fight him lol... gl shogun..
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Old 10-07-2006, 04:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
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haha I dont blame them for not wanting to fight him. Fighting Fedor is pretty much just adding a loss to your record. I think that Barnett does deserve this fight more than shogun, because he did get second in the Grand Prix. I know he never put up a good fight against cro cop but you gotta realize barnett had already went to a decision with big Nog and Cro Cop only fought one round knocking silva out. Either way Fedor isnt losing.

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Old 10-07-2006, 11:08 AM   #18 (permalink)
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So Has This Fight Actually Been Announced???
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Old 10-07-2006, 04:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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did anyone see the interview on mmaweekly.com??
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Old 10-07-2006, 04:56 PM   #20 (permalink)
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did anyone see the interview on mmaweekly.com??
No i doubt they will announce anything about Fedors next fight until after he fights Coleman.
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