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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-26-2008, 11:29 AM Thread Starter
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Elite/CBS Deal, good or bad for MMA?

I have to say, looking at the Elite roster, this is bad at least for the short term. When they are touting Robbie Lawler and Kimbo Slice as their top guys it is a problem. Robbie is a good striker, as is Scott Smith but they are also rans in UFC and fairly one dimensional although both have certainly improved since their UFC days. The dig on MMA for years has been it is barbaric, goons slugging it out and UFC has done a great job of changing that perception with some incredibly skilled athletes who are well rounded and well spoken etc. Now on th ebiggest stage MMA has ever had it will geature guys who are one dimensional and it will bring those critics out of the wodd work to ciriticize MMA has been done in the past. I think UFC is the best out there and I wish CBS and UFC were not so greedy so they could have had the best deal for the sport but that did not happen. Does anyone know what the stumbling block was on this? I can only hope ELite will in fact get some of the top guys and SIGNIFICANTLY improve it product so more skilled fighters can be featured on the national stage as oppossed to UFC flunkies trying to rehab their careers. I think Elite is a good organization but this is a bad fit for MMA overall.

SO, what do you think of the deal?
Why did UFC/CBS not get the deal done?
Will UFC be able to pull a rabbit out of its hat and get a deal with ABC, NBC or FOX?

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-26-2008, 11:35 AM
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My only question is how much control is a non-cable, corporate structured company going to have over mma. Is CBS/Elite going to put controls and if so what kind of limitations might they put on these fights and announcers and the whole of this venture. I know what I'm trying to say-it's just not coming out to well.
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I posted this in the other thread (in the wrong category). This might be useful here too:

I think it also depends on how the show is set up. How professional of a production will it be? What types of pre-fight interviews will they do? If they do a good job and make it a professional production, then it will show unfamiliar fans that this is more than "human cockfights". But if they do a poor job such as focus in on fighters talking about killing each other and constantly bleep out curse words, then my opinion is that it will take away from the fights themselves and look more like street fights on camera. They really need to be careful since this is Prime Time tv.
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It is questionable. I definitely think that the UFC would have made a much better impression on the new audience than what Elite will be brining to the table, but it is hard to say. I know promoting fighters like Kimbo Slice on CBS isn't going to give much credibility to the sport.

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I think it is a win-win situation for both UFC and EliteXC. For EliteXC there are people that will watch so they will possibly and should get a bigger fan base. For UFC well people will realize that UFC has a lot better fighters because they have seen the UFC PPV's that are on TV. And if EliteXC does well UFC might get a deal too.
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i agree that it would have been better if better fighters, more crisp athletes--not kimbo...--were on the card. but for that to have happened, it couldn't have been anyone else but the UFC. personally, i'm interested to know how anyone but the UFC secured a network deal?!?!?!

one thing is for sure, with Bill Goldberg and Marau Renallo as main commentators... shit ain't looking good for MMA's credibility on network TV. if only they could let Quadros do the show by himself...

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I also have my doubts about Kimbo being the 1st spokesman for mma to the general public. What kind of first impression is Kimbo going to leave on people?
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Thank goodness someone said how poor the commnetators are. I mean Goldberg is so clueless I cannot stand it. He seems to have almost no knowledge of the sport and fighters and he treats many of them like they are his kid brother. Marau and his frequent references to "drity boxing" and goofy catch phrases is irritating - he is more like a WWE cheeseball commentator. I hope they can work this out before the national debut. Showtime is affiliated with CBS so I am sure this is why there was a relationship but I had heard CBS was in negotiation with UFC and it broke down causing them to go to Elite. Maybe UFC got too greedy but I am sure Dana will pull something out of his pocket, he is a competitive guy.
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