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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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10-05-2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pt447
of course, but that doesn't imply that without that weapon, he's losing that much of his game. there are fighters who win because of the rules they fight in, and those who are so skilled they transcend those rules and can cope with any situation to come out on top. i believe that shogun is very skilled and will succeed under any rules. especially since we've seen randleman in both PRIDE and the UFC, and he fights the same, exactley the same, and boring and un-skilled no matter where! shogun will come out on top!
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perfectly said my friend |
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10-05-2006, 02:45 PM
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don't forget that Shogun can still use his superman punch to a downed opponent that he likes to use in his GnP.
It does suck that it will be PRIDE-lite, but at least we finally get PRIDE in the USA. PRIDE has always been against elbows because they open up cuts the easiest.
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10-05-2006, 03:12 PM
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yeah the superman punch kicks ass. can't wait till the 21st!
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10-06-2006, 10:13 AM
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he will proably just adjust and kick to the body..it wont change his fight to much..and the bottom line is randleman will gas way before shogun does..
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10-06-2006, 11:12 AM
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i bet 145 on shogun and will probably put more down before the 21st.
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10-07-2006, 03:15 AM
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WTF Chuck, Fight Me!
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when no soccer kicks allowed, there are no more downed opponents who will stay down... a down fighter on his back against a fighter standing above him can just stand up, he doesnt have to worry about a kick..
but anyways, i dont think that will change anything for shogun... u really think he can put randleman down? i think the ufc rules are actually worse for randleman, since no knees allowed in 4 points position...
the only fighter shogun has fought that his about randleman's size is quinton jackson.. and in that fight, rampage seemed to only care about defending, and i dont randleman is that kind of guy...
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10-07-2006, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Split
when no soccer kicks allowed, there are no more downed opponents who will stay down... a down fighter on his back against a fighter standing above him can just stand up, he doesnt have to worry about a kick..
but anyways, i dont think that will change anything for shogun... u really think he can put randleman down? i think the ufc rules are actually worse for randleman, since no knees allowed in 4 points position...
the only fighter shogun has fought that his about randleman's size is quinton jackson.. and in that fight, rampage seemed to only care about defending, and i dont randleman is that kind of guy...
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i think it changes alot for shogun. he wins many fights with soccer kicks and stomps. he won his last fight in the 2006 owgp with soccer kicks. more than half his fights have ended in stomps and kicks. its his bread and butter. he still has one helluva high kick to the head tho......im sure he will do fine on the 21st |
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10-08-2006, 10:05 PM
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"The Monster is Back"
Those were Randelman's exact words in a recent interview. He had lung surgery to remove the mold that has been growing in his lungs for the past maybe 4 years. He does underutilize his quick hands in favor of his wrestling. Something that Coleman has brought up and I hope his trainers have as well. I don't think Shogun can pull this one off. Randleman's weakness is his chin and Shogun rarely wins his fights by knockout but by being more aggressive and winning the decision. He will not be more aggressive than The Monster.
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10-08-2006, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pt447
especially since we've seen randleman in both PRIDE and the UFC, and he fights the same, exactley the same, and boring and un-skilled no matter where! shogun will come out on top!
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I suppose you thought Randleman slamming Fedor on his head was boring? Or when he knocked out Cro-Cop with a left hook then proceeded to hammer fist his face to a bloody pulp? I can't wait for Randleman to own Shogun in about 2 minutes. Don't worry though, you will always be able to say it was a "freak injury" or a "lucky punch" or "stopped too early" or "Randleman is really a heavyweight so it wans't fair" or whatever other lame excuses you Chute Box fans can think of when your fighters get owned.
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10-08-2006, 10:50 PM
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stomps should still be fair game. Those alone will keep any of shogun's opponents uncomfortable as hell on their back.
thai clench knees and high kicks are all shogun needs to disassemble randleman. shogun's diversity is why he's my second favorite fighter ever- and he's going to give us all a little treat for pride 32.
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