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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-29-2008, 11:47 PM Thread Starter
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is cung le top ten mw

after he beat frank shamrock and broke his arm with kicks is he a top ten mw
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I dont think he is a top 10 mw just yet. He has fought some cans before to get some experience and his was really his first big name. This merely proved that he was as good as people thought he was. It shut a lot of the doubters up. Whether or not hes top 10 material is a no in my book because he has only beat shamrock so far.

Alot of people are talking about him going up against lawler after his next fight. If he can beat lawler then I think he should definately be concidered a top 10 fighter.

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Yes he is, for christ's sakes. If everyone considered Frank top ten prior to the fight, than cung would have to be top ten after the fight since he destroyed frank in the their stand up war. To not place Cung in the top ten is to discredit his win against frank saying it was some how a lucky win.
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Yes he is, for christ's sakes. If everyone considered Frank top ten prior to the fight, than cung would have to be top ten after the fight since he destroyed frank in the their stand up war. To not place Cung in the top ten is to discredit his win against frank saying it was some how a lucky win.
What do you mean?? Who considered Frank a top 10 fighter?? I haven't seen him in any top 10's.

Personally I'd say No, I think he's a very small MW and should drop to WW.

Silva, Henderson, Lindland, Franklin, Kang, Akiyama, Filho, Misaki, Okami, Almeida, Lawler, Marquardt, those are 12 who I consider above him rankings wise, there are probably a few more who I haven't mentioned aswell.

Fedor fights I want to see..

Fedor vs. Josh Barnett
Fedor vs. Randy Couture
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Fedor vs. Andrei Arlovski - DEMOLISHED

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I'd say that Le's win helps him to check into the top 30 at MW...right about number 27...
Statistically, he wasn't a even a top 50 fighter before his victory over Shamrock...

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Yes he is, for christ's sakes. If everyone considered Frank top ten prior to the fight, than cung would have to be top ten after the fight since he destroyed frank in the their stand up war. To not place Cung in the top ten is to discredit his win against frank saying it was some how a lucky win.
It wasnt a lucky win its just that frank isnt a top 10 mw. Im a big ken fan and hes a cool guy but he hasnt fought any top competition at MW. Phil Baroni isnt a top level competitor look at his record. You dont become a top 10 mw out of no where you have to win against big names. Frank hasnt beaten any body important since he went on hiatus. Cung has just beat frank and that was his first big trial.

Right now there are alot of tough mws out there. Paulo filho anderson silva Denis kang robbie lawler nathan marquardt yushin okami dan henderson and frank trigg. I think cung and frank are right there and they can become top 10 mws but they have to prove that they can hang at that level. I think they can but they havent proven it so its all speculation.

Right now what ive been hearing and hoping for is that after robbie lawler wins his next fight he will go up against cung for the strike force title. I beleive it would be a great oppertunity for both fighters and I beleive that cung can win that fight. If he does theres no question hes top ten.

So just keep in mind im with you here I do beleive kung and frank are at that level but they havent proven it yet.

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Personally I'd say No, I think he's a very small MW and should drop to WW.

Why? He hasnt lost so far and has dominated everyone in San Shou at his weight class. Hes also very strong so i really dont see the point.
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Silva would laugh at his side kicks, then put him in a Muay Thai clinch and knee his head off Franklin style.

I think Cung should drop to WW too. He's probably around 15th MW though, he's still a good fighter.

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hes a very good fighter

but hes not in the top 10 MW's yet
Frank wasnt top ten before either

we know that Cung has good standup
but this fight didnt show us anything we didnt know

Frank is known for his ground game
hes not a great standup fighter so basically he beat a guy in a standup fight with worse standup than him

put him up against a top ten MW and see what he does

Im a fan of Cung im not trying to bash him
but his ground game and TDD is still untested

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Why? He hasnt lost so far and has dominated everyone in San Shou at his weight class. Hes also very strong so i really dont see the point.
To "Why?"

Because I think he is too small for the division.
I know he hasn't lost, but he will when he fights good competition. Then again maybe he shouldn't drop to WW he wouldn't be top 10 there either. Cung Le will never be a top 10 in any division.

Fedor fights I want to see..

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