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post #21 of 35 (permalink) Old 04-07-2008, 04:48 PM
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Anyone who thinks Kimbo can even survive in a strike fest with Chuck is insane, Liddell would brutally KO him.
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Well if you've seen any of Kimbo's videos then you've probably seen the one where he's throws around that 300lb bouncer guy. Kimbo has more size and muscle mass too. He;s got more weight and force behind his punches.
Hmmmmmmm muscle mass and size…..

When I first started training Muay Thai I was 260 (6’ 4”) and lifting weights regularly.
My training partner was the same height but a lien 210. I thought I was going to be able to bully him in the clinch and punch and kick harder because I had more “size and muscle mass” oh was I wrong!

A lien fighter with better TECHNIQUE can hit harder, faster and more accurate than some muscle bound oaf.

Don’t get me wrong Kimbo obviously has KO power but he’s NEVER fought a game opponent.

Using your rationale James Thompson or Bob Sapp should be the best striker in the world and Kimbo should be able to KO Fedor.
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Hmmmmmmm muscle mass and size…..

When I first started training Muay Thai I was 260 (6’ 4”) and lifting weights regularly.
My training partner was the same height but a lien 210. I thought I was going to be able to bully him in the clinch and punch and kick harder because I had more “size and muscle mass” oh was I wrong!

A lien fighter with better TECHNIQUE can hit harder, faster and more accurate than some muscle bound oaf.

Don’t get me wrong Kimbo obviously has KO power but he’s NEVER fought a game opponent.

Using your rationale James Thompson or Bob Sapp should be the best striker in the world and Kimbo should be able to KO Fedor.
Whoever said Chuck had great technique? I think most will say that Chuck has horrible technique. Im not saying Kimbo is going to push Chuck around the octagon either. Kimbo is more of a compact puncher. He keeps his hands close and his head down. He would stalk Chuck and catch him while Chuck is doing his looping thing. Of course Kimbo has never fought any top caliber opponents but that dosent mean Chuck will destroy him. Im telling you Kimbo is a game fighter. Sure he's never fought a great, complete, MMA fighter, but as I said before this would be a stand up slug fest. Kimbo I feel has better head and body movement something which Chuck (see fights with Rampage) has had trouble dealing with. Dotn get me wrong this would be a war, and I wouldnt be suprised if Chuck wins. I just dont think he would. I think Kimbo would catch.
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Whoever said Chuck had great technique? I think most will say that Chuck has horrible technique. Im not saying Kimbo is going to push Chuck around the octagon either. Kimbo is more of a compact puncher. He keeps his hands close and his head down. He would stalk Chuck and catch him while Chuck is doing his looping thing. Of course Kimbo has never fought any top caliber opponents but that dosent mean Chuck will destroy him. Im telling you Kimbo is a game fighter. Sure he's never fought a great, complete, MMA fighter, but as I said before this would be a stand up slug fest. Kimbo I feel has better head and body movement something which Chuck (see fights with Rampage) has had trouble dealing with. Dotn get me wrong this would be a war, and I wouldnt be suprised if Chuck wins. I just dont think he would. I think Kimbo would catch.
Kimbo stalking Chuck is exactly what Chuck wants him to do so he can do what he does best, counter punch.
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Whoever said Chuck had great technique? I think most will say that Chuck has horrible technique. Im not saying Kimbo is going to push Chuck around the octagon either. Kimbo is more of a compact puncher. He keeps his hands close and his head down. He would stalk Chuck and catch him while Chuck is doing his looping thing. Of course Kimbo has never fought any top caliber opponents but that dosent mean Chuck will destroy him. Im telling you Kimbo is a game fighter. Sure he's never fought a great, complete, MMA fighter, but as I said before this would be a stand up slug fest. Kimbo I feel has better head and body movement something which Chuck (see fights with Rampage) has had trouble dealing with. Dotn get me wrong this would be a war, and I wouldnt be suprised if Chuck wins. I just dont think he would. I think Kimbo would catch.
I don’t think you get it kid, what does “technically correct” boxing have to do with effective striking in MMA? Chucks technique is among the most effective in MMA. His record alone proves that. You seem to think there is some singular formula that if you stick to you’ll be a great striker. Striking in MMA requires more than traditional boxing, you can’t use the same technique because you have to worry about takedowns, the clinch, kicks, elbows, knees, etc.

Kimbo has great power and traditional boxing technique, lets see how he does with someone kicking dents in his legs or clinching and using dirty boxing or feeding him some knees.

Chuck's technique has evolved to lure a striker in, leave an opening and counter with unorthodox punches from weird angles that catch you on the button.

Watch some of his fights and follow his hands and tell me how would you defend against those looping punches by “keeping your hands close to your head”. Tito tried it twice, didn’t work out too well.

I’m still waiting for Kimbo to fight a mediocre opponent.

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I don’t think you get it kid, what does “technically correct” boxing have to do with effective striking in MMA? Chucks technique is among the most effective in MMA. His record alone proves that. You seem to think there is some singular formula that if you stick to you’ll be a great striker. Striking in MMA requires more than traditional boxing, you can’t use the same technique because you have to worry about takedowns, the clinch, kicks, elbows, knees, etc.

Kimbo has great power and traditional boxing technique, lets see how he does with someone kicking dents in his legs or clinching and using dirty boxing or feeding him some knees.

Chuck's technique has evolved to lure a striker in, leave an opening and counter with unorthodox punches from weird angles that catch you on the button.

Watch some of his fights and follow his hands and tell me how would you defend against those looping punches by “keeping your hands close to your head”. Tito tried it twice, didn’t work out too well.

I’m still waiting for Kimbo to fight a mediocre opponent.
First of all jerk off, Im not a kid. Secondly when's the last time Chuck kicked a whole in anybody's legs? Dudes knees are so bad he can barely kick. I cant even remember the last time I saw him clinch and knee somebody. I guess thats why he just sticks to punching 98% of the time. In fact his last fight with Wandy is the first time Ive seen him clinch in awhile and he didnt even use knees. Third Tito is NOT a striker. Kimbo IS a striker, and to say that Kimbo would take the same approach as Tito did against Chuck is ludacris. When I said Kimbo comes in and covers up I meant that he's uses good defense. You all may think Im crazy but Kimbo's brawler boxing is more similar to Rampage's brawler boxing then you think. And thats the style that gets Chuck. Chuck would come in doing that weird lanky beer gut circle thing with his hands down (like usual) and Kimbo would come in head bobbing, loose and ready to throw. Im tellin you upset.

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First of all jerk off, Im not a kid. Secondly when's the last time Chuck kicked a whole in anybody's legs? Dudes knees are so bad he can barely kick. I cant even remember the last time I saw him clinch and knee somebody. I guess thats why he just sticks to punching 98% of the time. In fact his last fight with Wandy is the first time Ive seen him clinch in awhile and he didnt even use knees. Third Tito is NOT a striker. Kimbo IS a striker, and to say that Kimbo would take the same approach as Tito did against Chuck is ludacris. When I said Kimbo comes in and covers up I meant that he's uses good defense. You all may think Im crazy but Kimbo's brawler boxing is more similar to Rampage's brawler boxing then you think. And thats the style that gets Chuck. Chuck would come in doing that weird lanky beer gut circle thing with his hands down (like usual) and Kimbo would come in head bobbing, loose and ready to throw. Im tellin you upset.

Blah blah blah knee jerk asumption.......
Wow, thanks for validating my previous post!

I never claimed that Chuck used knees or the clinch as part of his game (although he CAN when he wants) I was making the point that Kimbo has NEVER faced anyone other than a sloppy brawler with at best a one dimensional game.

I guess the point was lost on you, feel free to continue to worship the You Tube world champ.
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First of all jerk off, Im not a kid. Secondly when's the last time Chuck kicked a whole in anybody's legs? Dudes knees are so bad he can barely kick. I cant even remember the last time I saw him clinch and knee somebody. I guess thats why he just sticks to punching 98% of the time. In fact his last fight with Wandy is the first time Ive seen him clinch in awhile and he didnt even use knees. Third Tito is NOT a striker. Kimbo IS a striker, and to say that Kimbo would take the same approach as Tito did against Chuck is ludacris. When I said Kimbo comes in and covers up I meant that he's uses good defense. You all may think Im crazy but Kimbo's brawler boxing is more similar to Rampage's brawler boxing then you think. And thats the style that gets Chuck. Chuck would come in doing that weird lanky beer gut circle thing with his hands down (like usual) and Kimbo would come in head bobbing, loose and ready to throw. Im tellin you upset.

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Wow, thanks for validating my previous post!

I never claimed that Chuck used knees or the clinch as part of his game (although he CAN when he wants) I was making the point that Kimbo has NEVER faced anyone other than a sloppy brawler with at best a one dimensional game.

I guess the point was lost on you, feel free to continue to worship the You Tube world champ.
Right back at you brother. You talk about me thinking there's some kind of singular formula for being an MMA striker and Im telling you there's a cingular formula for beating Chuck and both Rampage and Kimbo possess it.

You didnt have to say that Chuck uses knees or the clinch as part of his game. The Thread is titled Chuck vs Kimbo so it is assumed that if I say Kimbo will beat Chuck and you reply with this "MMA singular striker garbage" and Chuck has all these weapons in his game that you're probably talking about Chuck. OR is there another fighter named in the thread that I didnt notice was there?

And I never said I worshiped Kimbo. I think he's pretty ugly to be quite honest. I also think that in a standup war which is what this fight would be, that Kimbo possess the tools to takeout Chuck and you haven't used any valid points to backup your arguement other than Chuck has more experience and all these other tools which he either chooses not to use or is physically unable to use.

And this is the last time I'll say this. MMA experience be damned!!! IF this fight does happen you can throw MMA out the window. This will be a standup war with fists flying. It'll be just like Rampage Liddell 2 except Kimbo is bigger stronger, uglier, scarier, than Page and, he's just as quick and explosive. Although I will give Chuck the 1st round because he is a veteran of the sport, but he will not make it past the 2nd round IMHO.
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Right back at you brother. You talk about me thinking there's some kind of singular formula for being an MMA striker and Im telling you there's a cingular formula for beating Chuck and both Rampage and Kimbo possess it.

You didnt have to say that Chuck uses knees or the clinch as part of his game. The Thread is titled Chuck vs Kimbo so it is assumed that if I say Kimbo will beat Chuck and you reply with this "MMA singular striker garbage" and Chuck has all these weapons in his game that you're probably talking about Chuck. OR is there another fighter named in the thread that I didnt notice was there?

And I never said I worshiped Kimbo. I think he's pretty ugly to be quite honest. I also think that in a standup war which is what this fight would be, that Kimbo possess the tools to takeout Chuck and you haven't used any valid points to backup your arguement other than Chuck has more experience and all these other tools which he either chooses not to use or is physically unable to use.

And this is the last time I'll say this. MMA experience be damned!!! IF this fight does happen you can throw MMA out the window. This will be a standup war with fists flying. It'll be just like Rampage Liddell 2 except Kimbo is bigger stronger, uglier, scarier, than Page and, he's just as quick and explosive. Although I will give Chuck the 1st round because he is a veteran of the sport, but he will not make it past the 2nd round IMHO.
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