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IhitU.uHITfloor 04-08-2008 09:58 AM

Official cause of death determined for MMA fighter Sam Vasquez
 
Here’s a snip:

http://mmamania.com/2008/04/08/offic...r-sam-vasquez/

“This type of injury is common in the ‘regular world,’ say when a person falls and hits their head…but in combat sports, this injury is very, very rare…I’ll give you a for instance…(Boxers) Kelly Pavlik and Jermain Taylor fought in February. It went 12 rounds, and Kelly Pavlik landed, I believe, 278 blows to the head, and Jermain Taylor landed 164 blows to the head. At UFC 82, (Cheick) Kongo versus (Heath) Herring - which they are both known to be standup guys - six head blows between the two of them. You just don’t have that accumulation of head blows in MMA.”

Just for your information. We all knew that this would happen eventually didn't we? The very interesting part is the snip-it from a doc who says they take way more punches to the head in boxing and yada yada yada, but what he fails to mention is how lethal MMA gloves are. Lets face it, MMA gloves are really only worn to protect the hands, not the face of the other guy. Hopefully this doesn't get blown out of proportion. It is only the 2nd guy to die in MMA. Does anyone know who the first was? Anyway, lets all hope for the best in the future and hope that this doesnt scar our sport.

Biowza 04-08-2008 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IhitU.uHITfloor (Post 514950)
Here’s a snip:

http://mmamania.com/2008/04/08/offic...r-sam-vasquez/

“This type of injury is common in the ‘regular world,’ say when a person falls and hits their head…but in combat sports, this injury is very, very rare…I’ll give you a for instance…(Boxers) Kelly Pavlik and Jermain Taylor fought in February. It went 12 rounds, and Kelly Pavlik landed, I believe, 278 blows to the head, and Jermain Taylor landed 164 blows to the head. At UFC 82, (Cheick) Kongo versus (Heath) Herring - which they are both known to be standup guys - six head blows between the two of them. You just don’t have that accumulation of head blows in MMA.”

Just for your information. We all knew that this would happen eventually didn't we? The very interesting part is the snip-it from a doc who says they take way more punches to the head in boxing and yada yada yada, but what he fails to mention is how lethal MMA gloves are. Lets face it, MMA gloves are really only worn to protect the hands, not the face of the other guy. Hopefully this doesn't get blown out of proportion. It is only the 2nd guy to die in MMA. Does anyone know who the first was? Anyway, lets all hope for the best in the future and hope that this doesnt scar our sport.

Yeah, well they chose a fight that was mostly spent on the ground (Kongo vs Herring) among ignoring the fact that MMA gloves are really small but aside from that I still think MMA is a very safe sport. The other guy that died was someone who wasn't cleared medically, and fought in an unsanctioned fight in the Ukraine. So really, Sam Vasquez is the first death in sanctioned MMA.

IhitU.uHITfloor 04-08-2008 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biowza (Post 514961)
Yeah, well they chose a fight that was mostly spent on the ground (Kongo vs Herring) among ignoring the fact that MMA gloves are really small but aside from that I still think MMA is a very safe sport. The other guy that died was someone who wasn't cleared medically, and fought in an unsanctioned fight in the Ukraine. So really, Sam Vasquez is the first death in sanctioned MMA.

I could've sworn that he was the first, I knew it. The other doesn't count because it was unsanctioned and if that "counted" we might as well count every person that has been beaten to death in gang fights etc...

And I agree with you in thinking that MMA is still a safe sport, I mean with all of the "sanctioned" bouts every year, we really never hear about any serious injury, usually just the basics.

pauly_j 04-08-2008 12:17 PM

I'm pretty sure there was a santioned bout in the USA where a fighter collapsed after a fight and died. It was down to a health condition that had nothing to do with the fight though, he'd just exhausted himself. I think that's the one that's counted as the first mma death.


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