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Tim Sylvia
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Fedor Emelianeko
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04-08-2008, 06:37 PM
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#121 (permalink)
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attention whore
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Originally Posted by pauly_j
Do you have a thing where you go for fighters no one else likes to look cool? You know like when people like bad music to seem individual?
Just I can't actually see how someone could be fans of Sherk AND Jardine. I could maybe understand if someone liked one bad fighter, but not two. Then again you do like Arona, so maybe men lying on top of eachother doing little for 15 minutes turns you on.
On a serious note, I like Arona. But he's boring as hell sometimes.
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Why can't someone be a fan of both jardine & Sherk? Both guys are solid fighters, both guys have had solid fights, both guys are contenders in their own division. They're not bad, at all.
I think Fedor takes this. It won't be easy, but I can see Fedor taking Sylvia down and armbarring him. Big Tim will make him work for it, but still, I see Fedor winning.
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04-08-2008, 06:37 PM
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#122 (permalink)
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LEGEN...wait for it...DARY
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Originally Posted by VoiceOfThunder
Don't forget about Serra and GSP fight. A lot of people think it will be a cake walk for GSP, but he got beaten down quick. This could be the same. Tim may surprise people and will be one of the biggest upset in mma history.
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I don't think it will be the biggest upset in MMA history. Especially since Andy Wang and Danny Abbadi have won fights before. Tim is a legit top 10. Serra is not. Serra would get beat by everyone else in the top 10 at WW more times than he would beat them. |
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04-08-2008, 06:39 PM
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#123 (permalink)
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Face the Pain
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Originally Posted by VoiceOfThunder
Don't forget about Serra and GSP fight. A lot of people think it will be a cake walk for GSP, but he got beaten down quick. This could be the same. Tim may surprise people and will be one of the biggest upset in mma history.
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this isn't quite the same situation. sylvia is a top ranked HW whereas serra wasn't even top 15 by most reputable rankings. fedor hasn't fought a top opponent in a while either and will have cage rust and inexperience with elbows and a face that cuts really easily. |
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04-08-2008, 06:40 PM
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#124 (permalink)
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Bantamweight
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Fedor by absolute raping.
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04-08-2008, 06:45 PM
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Bad boys bad boys!
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Originally Posted by Damone
Why can't someone be a fan of both jardine & Sherk? Both guys are solid fighters, both guys have had solid fights, both guys are contenders in their own division. They're not bad, at all.
I think Fedor takes this. It won't be easy, but I can see Fedor taking Sylvia down and armbarring him. Big Tim will make him work for it, but still, I see Fedor winning.
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They're good, but boring as hell to watch and not at all likable as personalities.
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04-08-2008, 06:46 PM
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Banned
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Originally Posted by ZZtigerZZ81
I see this fight as nothing like Schilt/Fedor. I think you guys are underestimating Timmy. Not saying he is going to win yet, but I am leaning that way.
Timmy is leaps and bounds better than HMC and Schilt. Sure he doesn't have the kicks Schilt does, but those wouldn't do any good against Fedor anyway since he would just catch them and take you down. If this fight goes to the ground Sylvia's length will help him only if he can keep it in guard. If it goes out of full guard he is done. His stand-up will work as long as he utilizes that boring ass jab-jab-cross he has in big fights. The one thing I see posing a problem for Tim is Fedor's quickness. He is probably the quickest fighter at HW and Tim will have problems with that.
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Good points, but I think you're overestimating Tim's length in the guard. The only person that has really struggled with that was Jeff Monson, and that's because he's pretty much 5 feet tall.
Randy is roughly the same height as Fedor, but he passed into Tim's half-guard with relative ease and punished him accordingly. Fedor has sat in the most dangerous MMA HW guard in the world 2.5 times and obliterated his opponent without being rendered ineffective.
I don't think Fedor will finish Tim by TKO, but Fedor does not lay and pray, he sits in a guard, stacks his opponent's legs, postures up, and drops bombs. Tim Sylvia struggled with Randy Couture's ground and pound from half-guard, and he's going to be in even bigger trouble when Fedor gets to that position  |
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04-08-2008, 06:47 PM
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#127 (permalink)
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Face the Pain
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Originally Posted by pauly_j
They're good, but boring as hell to watch and not at all likable as personalities.
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how the hell is jardine even mentioned in the boring category? his last 4 fights have been really fun |
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04-08-2008, 06:48 PM
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#128 (permalink)
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Das Übermensch
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Originally Posted by pauly_j
Do you have a thing where you go for fighters no one else likes to look cool? You know like when people like bad music to seem individual?
Just I can't actually see how someone could be fans of Sherk AND Jardine. I could maybe understand if someone liked one bad fighter, but not two. Then again you do like Arona, so maybe men lying on top of eachother doing little for 15 minutes turns you on.
On a serious note, I like Arona. But he's boring as hell sometimes.
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You have a ******* avatar of Phil Baroni yet you're saying Sherk and Jardine are bad fighters? Jardine and Sherk are actually A Level fighters, are are ranked in the top 10 in their weightclasses in the WORLD. They are great fighters, not bad fighters. Phil Baroni is a bad fighter.
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04-08-2008, 06:49 PM
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#129 (permalink)
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attention whore
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Originally Posted by pauly_j
They're good, but boring as hell to watch and not at all likable as personalities.
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Keith Jardine is actually an exciting fighter to watch, who has hardly, if ever, had a boring fight. I can only think of the Whitehead fight. hell, even the Chuck Liddell fight grew on me, and isn't boring, unless you think 2 guys beating the hell out of each other is boring.
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04-08-2008, 06:50 PM
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Punishment
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Originally Posted by Fedor>all
Good points, but I think you're overestimating Tim's length in the guard. The only person that has really struggled with that was Jeff Monson, and that's because he's pretty much 5 feet tall.
Randy is roughly the same height as Fedor, but he passed into Tim's half-guard with relative ease and punished him accordingly. Fedor has sat in the most dangerous MMA HW guard in the world 2.5 times and obliterated his opponent without being rendered ineffective.
I don't think Fedor will finish Tim by TKO, but Fedor does not lay and pray, he sits in a guard, stacks his opponent's legs, postures up, and drops bombs. Tim Sylvia struggled with Randy Couture's ground and pound from half-guard, and he's going to be in even bigger trouble when Fedor gets to that position |
Do you think Randy would have done so well if Tim was 100%? |
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