Well if opinions had to do only with facts, they wouldn't be opinions, now would they?
My opinions are based on my opinions.
Sounds about right, for you and your friend, that is.
I never said Kimbo was an arrogant bastard, I think that he's an entertainer. He's a sideshow. And everything you are arguing is only reinforcing that point IMO.
He'll call out the out-of-reach, top of the heap fighter from another org, but keeps his mouth shut when Buentello and Ricco talk trash. That's hard to make sense of from a professional fighter's perspective. If he wants to shut his critics up, there are plenty of people to fight in his org.
And you've yet to show an example of him ducking any of them, and you've ignored the fact that the response to Liddell is the first example of Ferguson saying anything back to those that have questioned his legitimacy, the fact that Rodriguez's comments came 4 months earlier, and the fact that Ferguson says he's been holding his tongue up until Liddell's comments. You're ignoring evidence that conflicts with your opinion, which is why I feel the need to point out where your opinion and the facts diverge.
You've argued that he gets paid more by a measure of his marketability, not necessarilly his fighting talent... Sounds more like an entertainer than a legit fighter to me.
No, I've argued that all MMA fighters get paid according to that measure, making it hypocritical to fault Ferguson alone for it.
Chuck is marketable because of his talent, not solely because of his winning personality and ability to knock down cans.
His career certainly benefited from facing a string of grapplers, though, didn't it?
Besides, you're twisting what I actually said, which is that every fighter, not just Ferguson, is paid based on their marketability. Machida is another good example. He's undefeated and one of the most talented fighters in his division, but his style isn't always exciting (to the general audience), and he doesn't speak the language (at least not up until now) of the market he works in. His pay reflects that. Compare that to Tito Ortiz, who hasn't had a meaningful win since he's returned to the UFC. Does his pay reflect his current skill or his mouth?
Once again, Kimbo gets paid because he's a good entertainer, a freak show.
He certainly gets paid out of scale due to his reputation and ability to entertain, but it's not fair to completely disregard the skill he's shown or the work ethic he's reputed to have, simply because you think he's overpaid and underchallenged. He's clearly a legitimate fighter, even according to your narrow, discussion specific definition.
To get back to why I joined this thread, Ferguson simply hasn't shown the arrogance some here have claimed he has. Anger over how he's been able to sidestep the process other fighters have had to go through or how he makes the sport look doesn't justify the nonsense people are coming up with in order to bring Ferguson down. Lesnar and the TUF group have both seen this type of behavior. They've survived it, and I imagine Ferguson will, too.