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Old 05-03-2008, 06:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I personally think the writer is spot on!

The guy's rich, now. Drop the thug act.

Just my opinion.
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Old 05-03-2008, 08:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Kimbo is gonna look out for this guy I hope when he does find him, they put it on YOUTUBE haha
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Old 05-03-2008, 08:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Granderson is criticizing the street-thug persona Kimbo protrays and making a point, not being racist. Cmon guys, read past the buzzwords for a minute here. What he's really upset is that Kimbo is exploiting (and therefore perpetuating) a racial stereotype. I'm not saying I fully agree or even care but let's not confuse his meaning here.
Why doesn't he attack rappers then? They project racial stereotypes which people buy into willingly, judging by record sales alone.
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Old 05-03-2008, 09:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Why doesn't he attack rappers then? They project racial stereotypes which people buy into willingly, judging by record sales alone.
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Old 05-03-2008, 10:06 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Why doesn't he attack rappers then? They project racial stereotypes which people buy into willingly, judging by record sales alone.
It may be because he's not a music critic.

Whether he's right or wrong to use a particular descriptor, he's not the first or the last black man to comment on this issue, nor should he be.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:22 AM   #16 (permalink)
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It may be because he's not a music critic.

Whether he's right or wrong to use a particular descriptor, he's not the first or the last black man to comment on this issue, nor should he be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kc4EwD5hoA

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I know that he's not a music critic, but I just find it strange that people are acting like Kimbo is a sole proprietor of stereotypes when they're constantly being upheld by mainstream society anyway, especially with regard to the arts (music, film, television, etc).

Personally, I think Kimbo's street attitude is part of his draw, but at the same time its of detriment to the societal perception of MMA, unintentionally.

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Old 05-04-2008, 12:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I hope for the sake of the writer of the article, that he never runs into Kimbo.

1st of all, Kimbo has displayed the upmost class since becoming an MMA fighter. When you watch his interviews, he is articulate & respectful.

If Kimbo wants to wear gold teeth, that is his business. The only thing I care about is whether a person respects other people & Kimbo does respect other people. So more power to him to wear what he wants to!

People need to stop talking trash about Kimbo.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:59 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I hope for the sake of the writer of the article, that he never runs into Kimbo.

1st of all, Kimbo has displayed the upmost class since becoming an MMA fighter. When you watch his interviews, he is articulate & respectful.

If Kimbo wants to wear gold teeth, that is his business. The only thing I care about is whether a person respects other people & Kimbo does respect other people. So more power to him to wear what he wants to!

People need to stop talking trash about Kimbo.
I agree with you with the exception of the bolded part. Kimbo's been respectful, and he realizes that he's at the bottom of the pecking order. However, I would say he's a farcry from articulate.
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Old 05-04-2008, 02:33 AM   #19 (permalink)
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It may be because he's not a music critic.
Granderson hasn't confined his commentary to sport, however, so I think Fedor>all has a valid point here.

This is one of those columns you will agree with if you held the same opinion already, and won't if you didn't.

As you said, there really isn't anything new here.

Granderson is finding support for his argument where it doesn't exist. His description of the Gannon fight as "pretty close to a lynch mob environment" is silly. I doubt there were so many black guys in ball caps at hanging out at actual lynchings, and that any of those lynchings actually took place in a gym.
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Granderson is finding support for his argument where it doesn't exist. His description of the Gannon fight as "pretty close to a lynch mob environment" is silly. I doubt there were so many black guys in ball caps at hanging out at actual lynchings, and that any of those lynchings actually took place in a gym.
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