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Old 05-06-2008, 08:23 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I think there are certainly better guys to fight him then Chuck. I mean Chuck would probably lose that fight.

I would say a guy like Brock or Nog would be better suited to match-up against him. I would really enjoy a match-up between Brock and Kimbo and really think that it should happen.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:31 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Even still thats like Peyton Manning calling Dan Marino a guy that had no game or skills.
Actually it is completely different because football has not changed nearly as much as MMA has since those two time periods.

I don't understand all the hate towards this guy. Since when did it become so bad to come from the streets and be a street fighter.

That would be like people making fun of "Skip to My Lou" (aka Rafer Alston) of the Houston Rockets. Once an acclaimed member of the And-1 b-ball tour and street b-ball competitions throughout the NY City area.

You gotta give it to the guy, he is a street fighter and fought his way into a professional fighting organization. That is pretty bad ass. How much training do most of these guys require before getting to his point. He marketed himself on the internet and now he is pretty big as a pro.That is what one can officially call "making it". Sure he is confident and talks smack, but there are few fighters that don't especially ones that have seen as much success as he has.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:34 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I think there are certainly better guys to fight him then Chuck. I mean Chuck would probably lose that fight.

I would say a guy like Brock or Nog would be better suited to match-up against him. I would really enjoy a match-up between Brock and Kimbo and really think that it should happen.
I think Kimbo is a perfect match-up for Chuck. Kimbo, moves forward and attacks, Chuck counter-punches, rinse and repeat 'til Kimbo goes to sleep.

It would be great to see Brock fold Kimbo up like an old pair of pants, though. I wouldn't even waste Nog's time with Kimbo. Gonzaga, Kongo, Herring would all beat him proper enough in the stand-up. We don't have to squarely depend on grapplers to beat Kimbo IMO.
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I think Kimbo is a perfect match-up for Chuck. Kimbo, moves forward and attacks, Chuck counter-punches, rinse and repeat 'til Kimbo goes to sleep.

It would be great to see Brock fold Kimbo up like an old pair of pants, though. I wouldn't even waste Nog's time with Kimbo. Gonzaga, Kongo, Herring would all beat him proper enough in the stand-up. We don't have to squarely depend on grapplers to beat Kimbo IMO.
i think herring and Kongo would have a really hard time with Kimbo. Kongo still hasn't proven to be man enough to be a top tier guy, and I believe Kimbo's mean streak would help him win that one. the only thing I don't know, is how Kimbo takes a punch. The guy seems pretty solid in the stand-up, he shows good movement, and pretty good combos, and definitely has power. But how is his defense and TDD. Even a guy like Kongo would give Kimbo problems on the ground just because of how long he has been training. So that is a given.
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i think herring and Kongo would have a really hard time with Kimbo. Kongo still hasn't proven to be man enough to be a top tier guy, and I believe Kimbo's mean streak would help him win that one. the only thing I don't know, is how Kimbo takes a punch. The guy seems pretty solid in the stand-up, he shows good movement, and pretty good combos, and definitely has power. But how is his defense and TDD. Even a guy like Kongo would give Kimbo problems on the ground just because of how long he has been training. So that is a given.
You give Kimbo a lot more credit than I do and you seem to be a lot more impressed with his stand-up than I am.

Kongo and Herring are seasoned, TRAINED, strikers. To think Kimbo's stand-up is near theirs is laughable to me.
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Actually it is completely different because football has not changed nearly as much as MMA has since those two time periods.

I don't understand all the hate towards this guy. Since when did it become so bad to come from the streets and be a street fighter.

That would be like people making fun of "Skip to My Lou" (aka Rafer Alston) of the Houston Rockets. Once an acclaimed member of the And-1 b-ball tour and street b-ball competitions throughout the NY City area.

You gotta give it to the guy, he is a street fighter and fought his way into a professional fighting organization. That is pretty bad ass. How much training do most of these guys require before getting to his point. He marketed himself on the internet and now he is pretty big as a pro.That is what one can officially call "making it". Sure he is confident and talks smack, but there are few fighters that don't especially ones that have seen as much success as he has.
It probably hasn't changed in football like MMA, but still. I just don't think its right to down rate all of the older fighters. Back then most of the fighters never used roids and didn't have the technique that future fighters now have. I just thought that present UFC fighters would respect the fighters back in the earlier UFCs. Just kinda pisses me off that they don't.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:30 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Kongo and Herring are seasoned, TRAINED, strikers. To think Kimbo's stand-up is near theirs is laughable to me.
Just my opinion.
Herring's stand-up isn't that great. He lands a good shot now and again, but when he does its comes completely out of nowhere and is not expected. I hate his jab, it looks so sloppy. I know a couple 13 year old golden glovers who put him to shame hand-wise. Sometimes I think Herring just doesn't go after it when he should. Kongo is definitely seasoned though and would probably spank Kimbo with his technical striking.
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What are you doing with this guy Bas

Royce and Ken would have tapped a green Kimbo back at the first ufcs. Especially Shamrock, who was a fufckin beast back then.

I want Alistair Overeem to school this guy. For Kimbo's hype train to end, he must get owned on the feet. This dude is PERFECT for Mirko.
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What are you doing with this guy Bas

Royce and Ken would have tapped a green Kimbo back at the first ufcs. Especially Shamrock, who was a fufckin beast back then.

I want Alistair Overeem to school this guy. For Kimbo's hype train to end, he must get owned on the feet. This dude is PERFECT for Mirko.
yeah I can see MCC knocking his lights out.
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Maybe because Ken Shamrock whooped Kimbo's trainer back in the day.

If Ken Shamrock was a scrub what does that make Bas in Kimbo's mind?

On top of that, Kimbo recently promised his fans that he will never tap out... EVER!

The guy has diarhea of the mouth and he hasn't done anything.

He is trying to set up a Kimbo Vs. Ken Shamrock fight no doubt. Ken's recent record is of the caliber of opponents Kimbo's been facing.
So then why can Dana say it and there is no uproar.

Dana has done nothing as far as fighting in MMA less than Kimbo has.

Also if Kimbo wants to say he will never tap out fine that's his business and you can laugh at him if he does. But I'm not sure if you guys understand that their is a reason Kimbo draws people and that's because of the fact he talks. He isn't disrespecting the sport he is bringing fans to it.

Why does Kimbo take more heat than Lesnar did when Lesnar called former UFC HW champion Tim Sylvia a bum?
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