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Old 05-06-2008, 11:52 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Kimbo's taking a shit on mma and doesn't acknowledge himself as part of the sport. Lesnar was at least trying to book a future fight with Sylvia, and said he wasn't athletic.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:57 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Kimbo considers himself an MMA fighter and has talked about how hard the training is many times.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:28 AM   #43 (permalink)
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We agree to disagree my friend. I don't like em, but he's getting his bread and training with Bas Rutten. Still, not the best posterboy for MMA right now; a sideshow at this point.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:34 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I don't think he's a good fighter at this point in his career but much like Lesnar he brings a crap load of fans with him.
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So then why can Dana say it and there is no uproar.

Dana has done nothing as far as fighting in MMA less than Kimbo has.

Also if Kimbo wants to say he will never tap out fine that's his business and you can laugh at him if he does. But I'm not sure if you guys understand that their is a reason Kimbo draws people and that's because of the fact he talks. He isn't disrespecting the sport he is bringing fans to it.

Why does Kimbo take more heat than Lesnar did when Lesnar called former UFC HW champion Tim Sylvia a bum?
Honestly, maybe because he is black. Let's face it the guy came up on the streets and that creates an attitude of me against the world. Something that carries with it a lot of criticism. I can't begin to understand his plight. From what I do know of it though, he has survival instincts that other fighters can not possibly have. He has that raw, untapped, live or die, do what ever it takes to stop the other guy kind of talent and Bas wants to refine that into a professional fighter. I think it is great. I hope that he works on his attitude too. Bas will be the perfect coach for Kimbo. The one thing this sport needs more of is prominent black athletes to move it into the future. Right now there just isn;t enough representation.

I may be giving him more credit in the striking category then he deserves, but the guy will outstrike most HW's.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:44 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I don't think it's racism. But I think where he comes from has something to do with it.

A lot of MMA fans don't want street fighters in MMA. And Kimbo is basically the most famous street fighter.
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Honestly, maybe because he is black. Let's face it the guy came up on the streets and that creates an attitude of me against the world. Something that carries with it a lot of criticism. I can't begin to understand his plight. From what I do know of it though, he has survival instincts that other fighters can not possibly have. He has that raw, untapped, live or die, do what ever it takes to stop the other guy kind of talent and Bas wants to refine that into a professional fighter. I think it is great. I hope that he works on his attitude too. Bas will be the perfect coach for Kimbo. The one thing this sport needs more of is prominent black athletes to move it into the future. Right now there just isn;t enough representation.
LOL!

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Kimbo is not the guy to move MMA or black America into the future. It's more like he is turning back the clock on both. lol.

Rampage constantly says WRESTLING saved him from the street. Wrestling is an actual sport and it took him through college.

I don't think the message to send to the world is : "Street Fighting got me off the streets!"
I think that's not a likely outcome for most people that get into street fights.
More commonly is: "Street fighting got me into prison" or "Street fighting got me shot in the face."

Kimbo sends the wrong message on every level IMO.

To say their are not better black role-models in MMA than Kimbo is shocking to me. Kimbo is a terrible role model for black youth. Any youth, for that matter.
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Why does Kimbo have to be a role model? Why can't he be just a fighter who's life was saved by street fighting?

If Kimbo sucks we will find out sooner or later but blasting him every chance you get for things that tons of guys have said in the past is just being stupid.

I know it has nothing to do with race but honestly it's just wrong to not give the guy a chance he hasn't done anything disrespectfulto the sport since he started dispite what all you guys say. From What I've seen he's tarining hard according to Bas he is the hardest trainer he's ever seen. The guy talks about how he's not a top HW and how his career is just starting. He's not handpicking his opponents get mad at Gary Shaw for that. He's said stuff about Liddell after Liddell talked shit about Kimbo. And now he's said something that we all know and that has been said by a ton of people. The orginal UFC fighters aren't good at all compared to the guys now days.
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I really don't care about Kimbo Slice, not until he beats someone he isn't fed. I respect that he's trying, but he should stay away from interviewers because he sounds like a moron.
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Kimbo is not the guy to move MMA or black America into the future. It's more like he is turning back the clock on both. lol.

Rampage constantly says WRESTLING saved him from the street. Wrestling is an actual sport and it took him through college.

I don't think the message to send to the world is : "Street Fighting got me off the streets!"
I think that's not a likely outcome for most people that get into street fights.
More commonly is: "Street fighting got me into prison" or "Street fighting got me shot in the face."

Kimbo sends the wrong message on every level IMO.

To say their are not better black role-models in MMA than Kimbo is shocking to me. Kimbo is a terrible role model for black youth. Any youth, for that matter.
I think you completely missed the point or didn't read the post I quoted. Which asked why people are criticizing Kimbo and not Dana for basically saying the same things? Somehting Rampage didn't do. So, to compare Rampage and Kimbo is pretty ignorant since the only thing they have in common is their race. Kimbo did not have the luxury of a wrestling scholarship to get him off the streets. He is using what he knows, "fighting". And it has made him an MMA fighter.

I agree that the message of fighting is not the best to send, but many pros and instructors have opened their gyms to underprivileged children to come train for free and if they see someone "like them" in there they are more likely to take advantage of those opportunities.
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