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post #51 of 86 (permalink) Old 05-07-2008, 12:53 PM
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I think you completely missed the point or didn't read the post I quoted. Which asked why people are criticizing Kimbo and not Dana for basically saying the same things? Somehting Rampage didn't do. So, to compare Rampage and Kimbo is pretty ignorant since the only thing they have in common is their race. Kimbo did not have the luxury of a wrestling scholarship to get him off the streets. He is using what he knows, "fighting". And it has made him an MMA fighter.

I agree that the message of fighting is not the best to send, but many pros and instructors have opened their gyms to underprivileged children to come train for free and if they see someone "like them" in there they are more likely to take advantage of those opportunities.
I didn't take a look at the post you were responding too, my bad.

But in an answer to why people get mad at Kimbo for saying stuff like that vs. DW is still not because he's black.

It's because, arguably, Dana White has done great things for the sport. Kimbo, however is a newbie that has done nothing for the sport, not fought any tough competition, and arguably is hurting the image of our sport. And he sounds really dumb when he talks.




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post #52 of 86 (permalink) Old 05-07-2008, 12:56 PM
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haha, stitchiz.. u better have a new pair of boxers handy for whenever kimbo finally loses

i cannot wait to see kimbo vs liddell.. it would be the most hyped/watched fight ever
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So, to compare Rampage and Kimbo is pretty ignorant since the only thing they have in common is their race. Kimbo did not have the luxury of a wrestling scholarship to get him off the streets. He is using what he knows, "fighting". And it has made him an MMA fighter.
The luxury? was Rampage born with that scholarship? I was pretty sure he worked his ass off for it.

Stitch1z comparison is perfectly valid, they are both MMA fighters with a strong following, and when we're talking about black american role models in MMA it makes perfect sense to compare them.

I think stitch1z is straight on with this, Kimbo's message is "street fighting got me off the streets", and street fighting is the last place you find competent MMA fighters. Kimbo's not even that great, as evidenced by the fact that he hasn't fought anyone who wasn't totally incompetent or completely washed up. Who's his next opponent after James "Jaw of Glass" Thompson? Kimo?

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Why should Kimbo have to be a role model. We don't blast guys in the UFC who get in bar fights all the time what is Kimbo doing wrong he's telling the truth street fighting got him off the street.
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Why should Kimbo have to be a role model. We don't blast guys in the UFC who get in bar fights all the time what is Kimbo doing wrong he's telling the truth street fighting got him off the street.
The point is that the sport is still trying to erase the image of its past, and Kimbo Slice came from a fighting background that the sport doesn't really and shouldn't promote. I'm not saying that Kimbo Slice isn't training hard or anything, I'm just explaining why Kimbo really shouldn't uphold his street-fighting reputation, because it almost validates street-fighting as a catalyst to getting into MMA professionally.
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Why should Kimbo have to be a role model. We don't blast guys in the UFC who get in bar fights all the time what is Kimbo doing wrong he's telling the truth street fighting got him off the street.
For one things, those UFC guys who get in bar fights almost never talk about it like its the reason they're so badass. They usually are pretty quiet about their own involvement... we hear about it second or third hand (like Matt Hughes' recounting of Pat Miletich's recounting of Tito getting KO'ed by Lee Murray in London)

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Fedor>All the guy was a street fighters there are videos of him on the internet fighting in the streets should he just deny it or something pretend it didn't happen.

Kimbo is bringing a ton of fans to MMA. And honestly if MMA is trying to get rid of that image so badly than why is the president of the biggest MMA org cursing every other word on National TV. Kimbo isn't doing anything wrong. In fact he doesn't even talk about his street fights that much Elite XC does.

Also Guys getting into Bar fights, getting arrested, and other things fighters do are much worse role model wise than Kimbo.

BJ Penn had a video of himself high and people thought it was the funniest thing ever but Kimbo is a bad role model.
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If Kimbo fought Gracie, or Shamrock in their prime, he'd either get his arm snapped or choked unconscious. Kimbo's not a fighter, he's a baker."gimme my bread!"
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BJ Penn had a video of himself high and people thought it was the funniest thing ever but Kimbo is a bad role model.
If you're going to show me two kids, otherwise identical, but one starts fights in the street and the other smokes weed... i'd say the guy starting fights is probably worse off. I guess that's just a matter of opinion tho.

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Well, he did make Tank Abbot look like a scrub.

Oh, and got a link?

They don't seem to have it up, yet:
http://fcfradio.fcfighter.com/
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