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post #81 of 86 (permalink) Old 05-15-2008, 01:07 AM
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I don't see why so many people are hating Kimbo. I sit here and read all these excuses, like him not fighting great fighters, and how he's in it for the money. I don't think any of us know what he's cabable of at the moment, he's been training hard, and he's learning alot. Of course he isn't going to start out on the top, he's working himself up with every fight. I beleive that he can be a great fighter if he keeps doing what he's been doing lately. So far all his pro fights have seamed easy for him, so he hasn't had a good match.
As far as him being in it for the money, I dought it. Kimbo said his first paid fight was with a kid he went to school with. He got offered $1500, and $3000 if he won. Turns out, he beat the guy, and that's what got him into doing what he does. He faught a few street fights, and then he got offered a contract. Every MMA fighter is getting paid, so I don't see why everybody insist on bashing Kimbo about it.
The reason he has so many fans is because of his street fights. He made a name for himself before he even got his contract, just by doing what he loves to do, fight. I think he's a pretty good fighter right now, but he can only get better from here. It seams like most people hate him because he dosn't dought himself against any fight. So what, he's got alot of heart in what he does. I'm not asking everybody to love the guy, but it's hard to say you hate somebody when you don't even know the person.

And for those of you talking about Chuck and Kimbo, don't hold your breathe. We all know it aint gonna happen, and if it ever does, then I beleive we'll all see a good show.

That's just my opinion.
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Let's ignore Kimbo's past for a moment or even his ignorants rants about those who have made the life he lives possible and focus simply on him as a fighter. From a trainer and aspiring mma fighter's pov.

See Kimbo has a few deficiencies when it comes to his fighting skills. He's slow - like retarded cow slow - it's just ridiculous. He has no real ground game to speak of. His chin is untested in MMA but he took a couple of shots in his streetfighting vids that he didn't handle too well. And his sense of tactics and strategy is...well it just isn't there. From listening to him speak he doesn't really come off as the brightest bulb in the bunch though I do not deny his talent for marketing and hyping himself. His hands are - supposedly - powerful but that doesn't help if you can't hit your opponent. Though, personally, from his streetfighting vids I'd say he is not one of the harder hitting heavyweights. He totally needs to scrap his fighting skills and start over - preferably doing lots of hand speed drills.

That's my opinion of him as a fighter. As a force for MMA ...I'm gonna go with what another has said before in this thread. I don't really want the fans he's bringing to the sport. Economically it's good but generally his fans - much like Lesnar's fans that came along - are annoying. I've heard alot of hype amongst fans that he's the next coming of Heavyweight Christ. Heavyweight Christ, incidentally, is the only man who can hit you hard enough that you're the only person in heaven in a wheelchair. He just hasn't done enough to be able to call out people like Chuck, Ken, or Royce. You have to earn your chops and fighting these basically rigged matches isn't going to do that.

Overall, I find myself indifferent to him. I don't watch his fights and he's not in either weight class that I can fight in. So that's that. Just my own opinions here.

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From what I know, he's working on hand speed. And it's hard to say that he has no groundgame at the moment, because as people said, he hasn't been tested. Once he works himself up and starts fighting better fighters, then I guess we'll see exactly how good his ground game is. Only time will tell.
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...his ignorants rants about those who have made the life he lives possible...
This is what I dislike about him most.

He might be a fighter one day, but right now he's just a punk.
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Let's ignore Kimbo's past for a moment or even his ignorants rants about those who have made the life he lives possible and focus simply on him as a fighter. From a trainer and aspiring mma fighter's pov.

See Kimbo has a few deficiencies when it comes to his fighting skills. He's slow - like retarded cow slow - it's just ridiculous. He has no real ground game to speak of. His chin is untested in MMA but he took a couple of shots in his streetfighting vids that he didn't handle too well. And his sense of tactics and strategy is...well it just isn't there. From listening to him speak he doesn't really come off as the brightest bulb in the bunch though I do not deny his talent for marketing and hyping himself. His hands are - supposedly - powerful but that doesn't help if you can't hit your opponent. Though, personally, from his streetfighting vids I'd say he is not one of the harder hitting heavyweights. He totally needs to scrap his fighting skills and start over - preferably doing lots of hand speed drills.

That's my opinion of him as a fighter. As a force for MMA ...I'm gonna go with what another has said before in this thread. I don't really want the fans he's bringing to the sport. Economically it's good but generally his fans - much like Lesnar's fans that came along - are annoying. I've heard alot of hype amongst fans that he's the next coming of Heavyweight Christ. Heavyweight Christ, incidentally, is the only man who can hit you hard enough that you're the only person in heaven in a wheelchair. He just hasn't done enough to be able to call out people like Chuck, Ken, or Royce. You have to earn your chops and fighting these basically rigged matches isn't going to do that.

Overall, I find myself indifferent to him. I don't watch his fights and he's not in either weight class that I can fight in. So that's that. Just my own opinions here.
im very curious as to what you are basing this statement on?

surely it can't be this...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2fV4zivxupU

41 and 44 seconds.
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Wow...what horrible shots. I hate to tell you but from my experience - both in the cage and out of - taking the punches of someone who doesn't know how to throw them is pretty easy. His opponent was only punching with his arms and not his body. From a kinetic linking standpoint they were complete duds. If he had put real force behind those punches I would be impressed but as it is...I've fought guys who hit like that and were that size. They just aren't that hard of shots and I'm a welterweight. From a science of fighting perspective he just doesn't have anything to offer.

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