You said fighters get better to support your point, if GSP can get better so can Fedor.
I said, "I'm just saying, Fighter's grow and get better." in response to his losses. I'm not saying, in the future GSP will grow to be better then Fedor. My point was that since his losses he has grown as a fighter to someone who surpasses Fedor. That's why bringing up Fedor potentially getting better is useless.
And you are with that again, it doesn't matter if he has avenged the losses, they happened, he got bested in two occasions, while Fedor has never been beaten. You can avenge your losses but the fact that you got KTFO or submitted will stand forever, for now GSP is beatable, Fedor is not, until someone proves otherwise, which frankly I don't see anyone doing.
Fedor is certainly beatable, other's have proved he's beatable.
Either way, I don't see how GSP's losses affect him in any ranking at this point.
On purely skill, not taking into account win-loss, GSP is better imo. He's physically in better shape, he has way better control, near equal ground game and worse striking. Averages out to be better then Fedor.
Based on overall accomplishment, he's beaten more top 10 fighters and avenged his losses, which in a ranking system, cancels them out (and in my opinion too). And he's beaten a lot of fighters more decisively then Fedor.
And if it's based on recent accomplishments, well, you don't even need to mention that, it's obvious.
Fedor weights at 230 yes, but he's not ripped like other HW, the fact is he got a strict diet he could probably fight at 205 were he could have a bigger size advantage, but he doesn't because he can easily kick ass at HW, that plays a huge part in determining a P4P fighter.
"IF" he had a stricter diet, and had a lower body fat %, maybe he'd make LHW and do better, but until he does it's useless.
It's based on who he is now.
*I think Fedor has a pretty good diet and he is extremely fit.
GSP's control is above Fedor? Who has Fedor not been able to control? Heck, he usually beats people at their own games, he can control you standing or on the ground, while GSP striking isn't great as proved by Serra. And records, yeah maybe GSP has beaten more people that are currently top 10, but when Fedor beat Herring he was top 10, Schilt was top 10, Coleman and Randleman were top 10, Mark Hunt was top 10, Babalu and Arona were top 10 LHW, Lindland is a top 10 MW. Wow Fedor record looks pretty good too, right?
err, by control I mean't wrestling, I should of specified. On the ground, no one controls other's like GSP does now.
This is a serious question, not a sarcastic remark, when were Randleman, hunt, coleman and schilt top 10 in MMA?
"... top ten 10 LHW, .... is a top 10 MW". If you're going to give GSP crap for having a weight advantage, don't ever bring these up.