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post #21 of 54 (permalink) Old 06-06-2008, 12:17 AM
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On a side note though, wouldn't it have been great if they got little Nog to fight VOLK HAN. Thats a jizz worth fight right there.
Volk's ancient, but I'd still pop a boner to see him fight Rogerio.

Hell, what is Volk Atajev doing nowadays? Bring him in to fight Rogerio one day. Now that is jizz worthy.

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I get to see Forrest and Tyson fight.
I get to see Babalu, AA, Fedor, Barnett, Sylvia, Aleks, Lil Nog, Lindland and some other good fighters fight.

Is this really a contest?
I could see maybe comparing Banned to Dream 4 or 5, but not UFC 86

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I was wondering. With the new promotion Affliction holding their new event, which card do you think will be better. Ufc's or Afflictions.
It's funny, I addressed this not too long ago.

I'll be honest, I like the Affliction card the best.

Think about it from a historical context, and purely looking at the quality of fighters and matchups:

Fedor vs. Tim Sylvia

While the matchup is a bit outdated, this would have been the dream matchup during the Pride Grand Prix not to long ago, and it's the chance to see Fedor return against a top tier heavyweight. And, even better, it's someone that we all hate, so we can all root for Fedor.

Josh Barnett vs. Pedro Rizzo II

I hope nobody rights this fight off, because Pedro Rizzo is back. He knocked Jeff Monson out in his last fight and he's ready to bring it to Barnett. While I'm still putting my money in Barnett, I think that Rizzo is going to be a top ten heavyweight pretty soon.

Then you have a bunch of other top guys:

Arlovski
Aleks
Rothwell

Plus the Nogueira vs. Vernon White matchup, which will be fun to watch.

The whole card has interesting stuff, top to bottom. I'm really excited for it.

It may sound like I'm creaming myself a little, and I am. The fact is that I don't really think that Forrest deserves to fight Rampage and I'm not enthused with the crappy product that the UFC has put together for UFC 85 and the TUF finale, and I'm equally disappointed with the crap that EXC put on CBS.

We'll see how the other card goes, but the return of Fedor casts a shadow over it all for me.



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I'm not enthused with the crappy product that the UFC has put together for UFC 85 and the TUF finale, and I'm equally disappointed with the crap that EXC put on CBS.
im suprised with the ufc 85 hate, its a solid card

i do agree that affliction banned is an awesome card, but i highly doubt they can maintain solid cards the way the ufc does month after month
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It's funny, I addressed this not too long ago.

I'll be honest, I like the Affliction card the best.

Think about it from a historical context, and purely looking at the quality of fighters and matchups:

Fedor vs. Tim Sylvia

While the matchup is a bit outdated, this would have been the dream matchup during the Pride Grand Prix not to long ago, and it's the chance to see Fedor return against a top tier heavyweight. And, even better, it's someone that we all hate, so we can all root for Fedor.

Josh Barnett vs. Pedro Rizzo II

I hope nobody rights this fight off, because Pedro Rizzo is back. He knocked Jeff Monson out in his last fight and he's ready to bring it to Barnett. While I'm still putting my money in Barnett, I think that Rizzo is going to be a top ten heavyweight pretty soon.

Then you have a bunch of other top guys:

Arlovski
Aleks
Rothwell

Plus the Nogueira vs. Vernon White matchup, which will be fun to watch.

The whole card has interesting stuff, top to bottom. I'm really excited for it.

It may sound like I'm creaming myself a little, and I am. The fact is that I don't really think that Forrest deserves to fight Rampage and I'm not enthused with the crappy product that the UFC has put together for UFC 85 and the TUF finale, and I'm equally disappointed with the crap that EXC put on CBS.

We'll see how the other card goes, but the return of Fedor casts a shadow over it all for me.
What is so bad about UFC 85? I think people fail to realize that there were a lot of injuries to this card and still is a solid card.

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I actually liked the Affliction card a lot more when I only knew the names of the fighters and not the match-ups. For instance, when I heard Babalu and Nog were on the card, I assumed they'd be fighting each other. I'm really excited to see Fedor-Tim, but everything else on this card (with the possible exception of AA-Rothwell, which I don't actually expect to be very competitive) reeks of tune-up fights that market stars at the expense of competition. I'm still interested in the card but, I don't have the same nostalgic feeling to see guys like Buentello, White, and Rizzo to get killed.

I'm not exactly dying to see UFC 86 either. Jackson/Griffin might be good, but Griffen/Aurelio is the only other fight on the card that does it for me.

I wouldn't pay money to see either, but if Affliction is on HDNet I'd definitely give it the nod.

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Affliction no doubt. Too bad I'm in Spain and will have to wait untile the next day to download it .
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I'm going with UFC 86 as it has a better mixture as i feel Affliction is aiming at hw which does not always make better fights. Also Arlovski is mentioned to be fighting but he does not appear on the affliction sight. And finally I don't rate certain fighters that Affliction have brought in.
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affliction hands down.



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Being a cynical person, I would suggest that Affliction appears to be a retirement home for "Big Name" Heavyweights. Most are 30+ years old, have been relatively inactive and have not recently fought top level competitors.
In contrast, the UFC is becoming a broad pool of elite MMA talent where fighters are constantly tested, forcing the sport forward in the process.
I fail to see how "Affliction" will provide anything more than a few highlight reel KO's that will add more wind to already inflated reputations.
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