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post #31 of 54 (permalink) Old 06-06-2008, 08:51 AM
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UFC 86. I don't wish to see a whole card of just HW thank you.
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post #32 of 54 (permalink) Old 06-06-2008, 09:35 AM
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I'll be buying the Affliction card.

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im suprised with the ufc 85 hate, its a solid card

i do agree that affliction banned is an awesome card, but i highly doubt they can maintain solid cards the way the ufc does month after month
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What is so bad about UFC 85? I think people fail to realize that there were a lot of injuries to this card and still is a solid card.
Are you kidding?

The UFC managed to put together a card that doesn't affect any of the divsions, and doesn't give us any great fights.

Thiago Alves vs. Matt Hughes will not result in the next title contender, because if Alves wins he's still going to have to wait in line behind Fitch, they'll give him a fight against a different top tier contender (like Koscheck) and he'll lose that.

If Hughes wins, he won't fight GSP again. So all that this fight can be used for is hyping Hughes/Serra, and unless the fight was for a title, I don't really care.

You have Bisping/Day, which will not result in a title contender, and will not produce a killer fight. Bisping is only being used to draw British fans and Day is supposed to get killed.

Who knows? Maybe Bisping will have a bad showing and get submitted. (It almost happened against Sinosic). I'm not enamored enough with Bisping to believe that he's one of the top 5 guys in the division.

Davis vs. Swick, again, won't give us a title contender. And it won't for the same reason that Hughes/Alves won't. That division has so many guys who are better than Davis and Swick that I don't believe the UFC will just give them a free pass to the title.

Marquardt/Leites won't do anything to the middleweight ladder, unless Leites catches a first round win, which he won't. I'm not a huge Marquardt or Leites fan, so this fight really offers me nothing.

The you have Vera/Werdum, which will be a fun fight, but that's it.

They've built the entire card on one fight that's at the bottom of the card. And I should remind everybody that Vera/Werdum still won't give us a title contender, because Mir is already in that fight.

So, the UFC has put together a card without a contender's match or a title fight.

And I'm supposed to be excited?

At least when they had Gonzaga/CroCop, we knew a contender was coming out of that fight. This card doesn't even give us exciting enough matchups for the lack of actual news to be worth it.



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Affliction by far... That's why I bought tickets to it


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Affliction by far... That's why I bought tickets to it
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Are you kidding?

The UFC managed to put together a card that doesn't affect any of the divsions, and doesn't give us any great fights.

Thiago Alves vs. Matt Hughes will not result in the next title contender, because if Alves wins he's still going to have to wait in line behind Fitch, they'll give him a fight against a different top tier contender (like Koscheck) and he'll lose that.

If Hughes wins, he won't fight GSP again. So all that this fight can be used for is hyping Hughes/Serra, and unless the fight was for a title, I don't really care.

You have Bisping/Day, which will not result in a title contender, and will not produce a killer fight. Bisping is only being used to draw British fans and Day is supposed to get killed.

Who knows? Maybe Bisping will have a bad showing and get submitted. (It almost happened against Sinosic). I'm not enamored enough with Bisping to believe that he's one of the top 5 guys in the division.

Davis vs. Swick, again, won't give us a title contender. And it won't for the same reason that Hughes/Alves won't. That division has so many guys who are better than Davis and Swick that I don't believe the UFC will just give them a free pass to the title.

Marquardt/Leites won't do anything to the middleweight ladder, unless Leites catches a first round win, which he won't. I'm not a huge Marquardt or Leites fan, so this fight really offers me nothing.

The you have Vera/Werdum, which will be a fun fight, but that's it.

They've built the entire card on one fight that's at the bottom of the card. And I should remind everybody that Vera/Werdum still won't give us a title contender, because Mir is already in that fight.

So, the UFC has put together a card without a contender's match or a title fight.

And I'm supposed to be excited?

At least when they had Gonzaga/CroCop, we knew a contender was coming out of that fight. This card doesn't even give us exciting enough matchups for the lack of actual news to be worth it.
The GSP/Fitch fight isn't too long after this card so if Thiago wins I think they might keep him aside

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The GSP/Fitch fight isn't too long after this card so if Thiago wins I think they might keep him aside
After not making weight? I doubt it.
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The GSP/Fitch fight isn't too long after this card so if Thiago wins I think they might keep him aside
I doubt it.

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After not making weight? I doubt it.
I don't think he was aware of it when he was posting that, but I think now that he's failed to make weight, the deal is done.



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I don't think he was aware of it when he was posting that, but I think now that he's failed to make weight, the deal is done.
Yeah after not making weight Thiago is probably not getting the next shot but another match that I think you talked about that I think has title implications is Leites/Marquardt. Why because after Okami who else is there right now? Henderson needs to get a win or two, Almeida even if(when)he beats Cote will probably need another fight or two and who else after those two would you give a title shot?

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Yeah after not making weight Thiago is probably not getting the next shot but another match that I think you talked about that I think has title implications is Leites/Marquardt. Why because after Okami who else is there right now? Henderson needs to get a win or two, Almeida even if(when)he beats Cote will probably need another fight or two and who else after those two would you give a title shot?
If Leites wins he can make a case for himself. Marquardt can't.

Marquardt was destroyed to the point where I want to see him take a few more fights so that he can show us something new.

My problem is that I think Nate is going to win by decision, and unless he finishes Leites, he's not really showing us anything different.

The same for Leites.

Personally, I think that Kampmann should be ahead of both of them right now. Obviously Okami is. Cote and Almieda are ahead of the winner of this fight. That's four guys.

Then you have the possibility of Henderson fighting him again, which I think everyone would agree makes for a better fight then a Marquardt rematch.

I just think that Marquardt and Leites aren't at the top of this division.



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