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post #41 of 54 (permalink) Old 06-06-2008, 02:40 PM
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If Leites wins he can make a case for himself. Marquardt can't.

Marquardt was destroyed to the point where I want to see him take a few more fights so that he can show us something new.

My problem is that I think Nate is going to win by decision, and unless he finishes Leites, he's not really showing us anything different.

The same for Leites.

Personally, I think that Kampmann should be ahead of both of them right now. Obviously Okami is. Cote and Almieda are ahead of the winner of this fight. That's four guys.

Then you have the possibility of Henderson fighting him again, which I think everyone would agree makes for a better fight then a Marquardt rematch.

I just think that Marquardt and Leites aren't at the top of this division.
I forgot about Cote because I personnaly feel he is going to lose to Almeida in under two minutes but can Kampmann be ahead of both Marquardt and Leites if he has been out for over a year, I would understand it if he didn't get hurt and was winning fights but there is no way you can put him ahead right now.

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I forgot about Cote because I personnaly feel he is going to lose to Almeida in under two minutes but can Kampmann be ahead of both Marquardt and Leites if he has been out for over a year, I would understand it if he didn't get hurt and was winning fights but there is no way you can put him ahead right now.
Kampmann beat Leites. So he's definitely ahead of him as far as I'm concerned.

In terms of Marquardt, I don't necessarily think he's ahead of Nate, but if he finishes Jorge and Nate only wins by decision, he'll look much better.



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Kampmann beat Leites. So he's definitely ahead of him as far as I'm concerned.

In terms of Marquardt, I don't necessarily think he's ahead of Nate, but if he finishes Jorge and Nate only wins by decision, he'll look much better.
Wow, now that you mention it the MW division right now is pretty sad, who the hell is going to beat Silva if Okami loses (and I think he will)?
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Kampmann beat Leites. So he's definitely ahead of him as far as I'm concerned.

In terms of Marquardt, I don't necessarily think he's ahead of Nate, but if he finishes Jorge and Nate only wins by decision, he'll look much better.
Yes Kampmann did beat Leites but that was almost two years ago so I don't think that has any impact plus it has been over a year since Kampmann has fought.

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Wow, now that you mention it the MW division right now is pretty sad, who the hell is going to beat Silva if Okami loses (and I think he will)?
Yeah, Silva is looking pretty good right now. I can see why he's so interested in boxing with RJJ. His boredom in this division is somewhat understandable.

I just hope he doesn't get lazy, though he doesn't seem like that type of guy to me.


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Yes Kampmann did beat Leites but that was almost two years ago so I don't think that has any impact plus it has been over a year since Kampmann has fought.
Really? I have a hard time believing that they'll let let Leites skip ahead of a guy who beat him soundly when Leites hasn't really won that many fights. (he's won three, and not really against top guys, in my opinion)

Cote, as far as I'm concerned, has the best argument, given that he's picked apart some of the best strikers, but I don't think that his striking is anywhere near good enough to beat Anderson. I don't think Cote believes that either, though.

We'll see. Most of the UFC divisions are in a wierd place right now.



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Really? I have a hard time believing that they'll let let Leites skip ahead of a guy who beat him soundly when Leites hasn't really won that many fights. (he's won three, and not really against top guys, in my opinion)

Cote, as far as I'm concerned, has the best argument, given that he's picked apart some of the best strikers, but I don't think that his striking is anywhere near good enough to beat Anderson. I don't think Cote believes that either, though.

We'll see. Most of the UFC divisions are in a wierd place right now.
I guess tomorrow will tell where they are at if they are both victorious and we can talk about it again, Cote in my opinion won't be a contender for long when he taps to Almeida in under two minutes when they fight.

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UFC 86 for one reason:


They are showcasing MORE THAN ONE weight division. I mean those are great HW names...but I would rather see a more evenly spread out weight divisions on a card.
I can't recall Lindland, Babalu, Rogerio, Hominick, Pyle or Young being Heavyweights?
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Affliction's card is better IMO. I think I might have an anxiety attack just waiting for it.



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I guess tomorrow will tell where they are at if they are both victorious and we can talk about it again, Cote in my opinion won't be a contender for long when he taps to Almeida in under two minutes when they fight.
Yeah, I think that we'll get that result too.

Still, I have to say that I think Almeida is higher up the ladder than Leites, because I believe he's the better fighter, but I'm not sure how Dana and Joe feel about it, and it's their opinion that matters, not mine.



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