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Article about mma in Dayton Daily News

I figured this belonged more in the general mma discussion but I thought it would get more views here and since it is centered around EliteXC I put it here. This is an article that was ran in the Dayton Daily News Thursday.

The demand for MMA doesn't justify airing it

By Doug Harris

Staff Writer

Thursday, June 05, 2008

Mixed martial arts finally reached mainstream television Saturday night, May 31, when street-fighting legend Kimbo Slice met British brawler James Thompson on CBS-TV, and the Elite Xtreme Combat match supplied the blood-thirsty fans of that so-called sport exactly what they wanted.

Thompson was dealt a savage beat-down and yet he couldn't understand the referee's rationale for stopping the fight but perhaps that was because he was having a hearing problem at the time.

His mangled left ear was nearly torn off. And as that bloody mess bobbed up and down, it looked like someone had ripped his beating heart from his chest and plastered it to the side of his head, which, as near as I can tell, is perfectly within the rules.

The soaring popularity of Ultimate Fighting Championship and other brands of mixed martial arts, like EliteXC, merely shows how desensitized we've become to violence and gore, and the fact that the sport has gone from niche cable channels and pay-per-view venues to network TV beamed into the nation's living rooms for every tot to see makes it all the more disturbing.

MMA aficionados will say part of the allure is the blend of fighting styles, and that Slice and Thompson shouldn't have been featured because they're just boxers. But in every snippet I've seen on cable, someone ended up in a helpless position while getting his face pulverized.

CBS will broadcast two more nights of bouts, and I suppose the network sees it as a ratings winner. But just because there's an audience for it, that doesn't mean we have to cater to it.


Contact this reporter at (937) 225-2125 or dharris@DaytonDailyNews.com

I am really annoyed at people who write pieces like this. I wrote him this email in response:

I have some problems with some of the things you said in the article you wrote Thursday about EliteXC and MMA. First off, James Thompson had cauliflower ear. It is pretty common in combat sports especially wrestling. I will admit it is one of the worst cases I have ever seen and I would have had no problem with it if he was not cleared to fight because of it but it was not going to fall off, it was just bad cauliflower ear. Also, blood thirsty fans? so called sport? ripped the beating heart off his chest is perfectly within the rules? I understand you have to write a compelling story but come on. Blood thirsty fans? I can guarentee you that if you ask any truly educated mma fan that would prefer no blood, because if a fighter is cut too badly the fight will have to be stopped because of it and no one wants to see a fight stopped that way. You also mentioned fighters being in helpless positions while getting their fight pulverized and I have two things to say about that: 1) A good fighter is never helpless, even when in bad positions they should have trained escapes and counters for those positions and 2) The refs are there to stop a fight if someone is not intelligently defending themselves. I would like to add that I think the Kimbo/Thompson fight should have been stopped earlier when Thompson obtained the crucifix position and Kimbo was in my opinion not intelligently defending himself. Also, all statistics show that mma is a very safe sport and there has been one death in the history of sanctioned mma, compare that to boxing and I think you will see that you are criticizing the wrong sport. If you actually took the time to read my whole e-mail, thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Jeremy Myers

P.S. Seeing that you write for Dayton Daily News I would assume you probably live in the area, there are many good mma facilities in Ohio and if you called and arranged to see what a pro-mma fighter goes through and see their training I would be fully confident that you would be able to see the technique and skill involved and at the very least be able to say that if you dont think it is a sport, at least you took the time to find out. Jorge Gurgel's mma academy in Middletown or Walker's mma in Moraine would be great places to visit if you are interested.

Here is the link: http://www.daytondailynews.com/searc...spaudible.html
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Old 06-07-2008, 05:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I figured this belonged more in the general mma discussion but I thought it would get more views here and since it is centered around EliteXC I put it here. This is an article that was ran in the Dayton Daily News Thursday.

The demand for MMA doesn't justify airing it

By Doug Harris

Staff Writer

Thursday, June 05, 2008

Mixed martial arts finally reached mainstream television Saturday night, May 31, when street-fighting legend Kimbo Slice met British brawler James Thompson on CBS-TV, and the Elite Xtreme Combat match supplied the blood-thirsty fans of that so-called sport exactly what they wanted.

Thompson was dealt a savage beat-down and yet he couldn't understand the referee's rationale for stopping the fight but perhaps that was because he was having a hearing problem at the time.

His mangled left ear was nearly torn off. And as that bloody mess bobbed up and down, it looked like someone had ripped his beating heart from his chest and plastered it to the side of his head, which, as near as I can tell, is perfectly within the rules.

The soaring popularity of Ultimate Fighting Championship and other brands of mixed martial arts, like EliteXC, merely shows how desensitized we've become to violence and gore, and the fact that the sport has gone from niche cable channels and pay-per-view venues to network TV beamed into the nation's living rooms for every tot to see makes it all the more disturbing.

MMA aficionados will say part of the allure is the blend of fighting styles, and that Slice and Thompson shouldn't have been featured because they're just boxers. But in every snippet I've seen on cable, someone ended up in a helpless position while getting his face pulverized.

CBS will broadcast two more nights of bouts, and I suppose the network sees it as a ratings winner. But just because there's an audience for it, that doesn't mean we have to cater to it.


Contact this reporter at (937) 225-2125 or dharris@DaytonDailyNews.com

I am really annoyed at people who write pieces like this. I wrote him this email in response:

I have some problems with some of the things you said in the article you wrote Thursday about EliteXC and MMA. First off, James Thompson had cauliflower ear. It is pretty common in combat sports especially wrestling. I will admit it is one of the worst cases I have ever seen and I would have had no problem with it if he was not cleared to fight because of it but it was not going to fall off, it was just bad cauliflower ear. Also, blood thirsty fans? so called sport? ripped the beating heart off his chest is perfectly within the rules? I understand you have to write a compelling story but come on. Blood thirsty fans? I can guarentee you that if you ask any truly educated mma fan that would prefer no blood, because if a fighter is cut too badly the fight will have to be stopped because of it and no one wants to see a fight stopped that way. You also mentioned fighters being in helpless positions while getting their fight pulverized and I have two things to say about that: 1) A good fighter is never helpless, even when in bad positions they should have trained escapes and counters for those positions and 2) The refs are there to stop a fight if someone is not intelligently defending themselves. I would like to add that I think the Kimbo/Thompson fight should have been stopped earlier when Thompson obtained the crucifix position and Kimbo was in my opinion not intelligently defending himself. Also, all statistics show that mma is a very safe sport and there has been one death in the history of sanctioned mma, compare that to boxing and I think you will see that you are criticizing the wrong sport. If you actually took the time to read my whole e-mail, thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Jeremy Myers

P.S. Seeing that you write for Dayton Daily News I would assume you probably live in the area, there are many good mma facilities in Ohio and if you called and arranged to see what a pro-mma fighter goes through and see their training I would be fully confident that you would be able to see the technique and skill involved and at the very least be able to say that if you dont think it is a sport, at least you took the time to find out. Jorge Gurgel's mma academy in Middletown or Walker's mma in Moraine would be great places to visit if you are interested.

Here is the link: http://www.daytondailynews.com/searc...spaudible.html
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Another sensationalistic, misinformed, and idiotic article. I though periodists were supposed to investigate the subject of the article and not writing the first thing that came to mind.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah, it is really irresponsible IMO for a journalist to just blindly comment on something with no real knowledge of it at all
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