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View Poll Results: What should Ken do?
Retire 24 33.33%
Fight Frank then retire 25 34.72%
Keep fighting Ken it can only get better 4 5.56%
Fight Sakuraba over and over until one of them dies in the ring 13 18.06%
I'm bored already 6 8.33%
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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2008, 11:00 AM Thread Starter
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Ken Shamrock eyes final fight on his terms

by Steve Sievert on Jun 23, 2008 at 10:32 am ET
Although his performance against Robert Berry in March suggests otherwise, UFC hall-of-famer Ken Shamrock is convinced he has some fight left in him.

The 44-year-old Shamrock said he was walking away from MMA following his third loss in as many tries to Tito Ortiz in October 2006, but he came out of retirement in January by signing a multi-fight contract with EliteXC.

Had Shamrock beaten Berry at Cage Rage 25 in London three months ago, it's likely he, not James Thompson, would have received the call to fight Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson in the main event of EliteXC's CBS debut last month. Instead, Berry handled Shamrock with ease and knocked him out in the first round.

Despite the one-sided defeat, his fifth consecutive loss, Shamrock wants to hear the cage door close behind him once again.

"I'd like to get in there one more time and do a big one," Shamrock told ( "It'll help promote my gym, promote my business and help other fighters on my elite fighting team get out there and make some big fights. That's why I want to do it again, and I want to go out the way I want to go out. ... This is it, this is my last fight and go do it."

While Shamrock is currently focused on expanding his Lion's Den brand of gyms – a new facility opened earlier this month in Scottsdale, Ariz. – he expects to resume training in the next couple of months with an eye on that final fight.

A bout against his adoptive brother, Frank, has long been rumored. Earlier this year, the younger Shamrock raised capital for the brother-versus-brother showdown with a date in early 2009 in the works.

"I'd love for that to happen," said the elder Shamrock. "It's no secret there's been a rivalry between me and my brother and it's been going on for years. He's the one who called me out, and I said 'OK, let's do it.' But, he never stepped up. Forget about the talk and forget about the hype on this thing. 'If you're going to do it, shut up and do it.'"

Despite what appeared to be progress earlier this year toward making the fight, Shamrock says he has not seen any action on the part of his brother to line up the match, which would still have enough novelty to generate a measure of fan interest.

In the meantime, Shamrock is a free agent. The contract he signed with EliteXC in January expired 30 days after his fight with Berry when the promotion declined to pick up additional bouts. His short-lived stay in EliteXC stings a bit more after Shamrock watched Slice's performance against Thompson.

"Now that I saw the fight, I'm very disappointed," he said. "I didn't do what I needed to do to get that fight off. The last fight in England, I should have won it. Things happen, and I didn't win it. They did what they thought was best. It would have been a good match-up, but I have no complaints. I didn't do what I needed to do to get there."

As for his assessment of Slice, Shamrock feels EliteXC rushed him into prime time and that the former street brawler is too still green to be considered the future of the sport.

"He needs time to grow," Shamrock said. "He can be a good fighter, I think he just needs another year or so to get sharper on the ground and get this cardio better. This isn't like fighting in the backyard. He's got the great look, the great attitude, but he's just not ready." will have more on Shamrock and the growth of his Lion's Den fighting team in an upcoming edition of Fight Biz feature.

Steve Sievert is the Lead Staff Writer and business columnist for He is also the former MMA beat writer and blogger for the Houston Chronicle."


I think punchdrunk Kenny needs to hang it up and move on past his fighting days. I know the Shamrock-Shamrock fight has the brothers fighting angle but beyond that does anyone really want to see Ken fight again? I personally think he should just work on his gym and businesses and stop getting KTFO or whatever the hell he did against Berry. So what do ya'll think?

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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2008, 11:30 AM
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I say fight Frank and then retire.
He should be retired already IMO but I would love to the bros go at it....then retire for real this time.

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I voted "I'm bored already".

Ken is less than a shell of the fighter he once was. Even if and when he fights Frank he's getting reamed.

I understand the angle of the Shamrock-Shamrock fight. But anything more than that and he's just killing his legacy.

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post #4 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2008, 03:04 PM
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No no bad Ken, bad Ken.
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Ken, do not do this to your fans again, do you know how hard it is becoming to defend you everytime you take a loss? And not just a loss, but a crushing one?

Do not fight Frank. I see it from the business stand point but you will not have a chance against Frank.

Work the gyms and train fighters with your experience and give to the sport in that perspective, inside the cage is not a good idea. You've had the chance 5 times in a row, all in the first round and probably all in under 3 minutes. I think that alone should be a wake up call.
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You know what's funny? Dan Severn has a 15 - 2 record since 2006 and he's 50 years old. Ken should follow Dan around and get some wins.


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I dont know what kind of technique was used there, but there was a lot of kicking and punching. Jim Brown
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I was going to vote 'Retire' then I just had to chose 'Fight Sakuraba over & over until one dies in the ring'.

Seriously, he's been a joke since the 2nd fight with Tito & it really is difficult to watch such a legend get consistently decimated every time he steps in there. In all honesty, I never really liked him as a person but it's still not a pleasant sight seeing how bad he's become.
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I'd say fight Frank but I want to see Frank get a challenge. I don't think Frank's got to many fights left in him either.

I was just looking at Ken's wikipedia page and he's 2-8 in his last 10 and hasn't seen the second round since 2002. Time to call it quits I think.

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post #10 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-24-2008, 12:27 PM
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he should of never came back after he did the pro wrestling thing, altough the fight with Don Frye was exciting. MMA evolved too much for him to come back.

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