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Strikeforce is turning a profit and they are about to do only their 13th show total.
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Strikeforce's business model is the Zuffa business model. Dana was apart of the Zuffa model, so if Coker is following it how would he be better than Dana?

The fans that Strikeforce has are mainly from San Jose. Nothing Coker has done is amazing becuase we have seen it before, Dana. Coker's fighters can leave and fight anyways because they don't have exclusive contracts.

The reason only Strikeforce and the UFC are the only ones not in the black is because of their business models, or should I say Zuffa's business model.

Same question as before, how is it easier to turn a profit then instead of now? You have the fans and the sponsors now, something that Dana didn't to start. By the way you need to remember inflation when talking about the money issue.
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No it's not Zuffa's business model it's a similar business model. Coker is doing a great job.

Sure they can fight anywhere but you know what it helps them sign fighters and keeps them making money.

It was tougher for Dana when he started than when it is for Coker. However Coker is in his 2nd year making a profit something unheard of.

Now yes they have used a similar business model. Coker has found a way to make a prfoit just using income from ticket sales and then anything he makes tv wise is a bonus. And you know what when Strikeforce could be on National TV after 2 years I would say they will pick up some national exposure.

It's not easier to earn a profit but it isn't easy it's something no one has been able to do. And considering some of the bad decisions Dana has made you can't act like he hasn't mad some big mistakes.
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So what are the differences in their business models?

If the positions are reversed would Coker have been able to do what Dana did? I think Dana would be able to do what Coker did had someone come before him.
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bbjd7 are you Scott Coker? Seirously get off the guys nuts, he runs a mildly sucessful regional promotion, he isnt building a promotion on a national or international level, the UFC makes huge money internationally, to say Scott Coker is uncessful wouldn't be fair he has done alright and proved he has a better buisness model than Elite XC or the IFL but to even compare what he has accomplished to what Dana has is ridiculous. On another note why is Garry Shaw on the list, only two people in the world would vote for Shaw, Shaw and Kimbo.




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Well Strikeforce's main business comes from ticket sales. UFC's came from PPV.

I don't know if Coker could of done it but I don't know if Dana coul do what Coker did they both fit the roles they have played well.

Now Toxic. I'm not asking if he's done more than Dana I'm asking if he's better at running a promotion than Dana. He is 2 years in. And also if he has a show on NBC I would guess it would become a more National promotion remember he is 2 years in.

Shaw is a joke which is why I put of course.

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I dont think Strikeforce is ever gonna be given the ball enough by Pro Elite to ever make a run at suceeding nationally, Pro Elite seems to treat Strikeforce like its Elite XC's redheaded stepbrother and they seem to have more faith is Shaw and Elite XC for what ever reason for that reason I think Strikeforce is gonna be muscled out of the picture by Pro Elite as they begin to shift top fighters over to try to help Elite XC.




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Pro Elite doesn't own Strikeforce. Not to be rude but it's completly wrong it's a pet peeve of mine when people say that.
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Well Strikeforce's main business comes from ticket sales. UFC's came from PPV.
What do you think the UFC depended on when Dana took over? They weren't pulling huge ppv numbers that they could rely on, the money they made was off of the gates.

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I don't know if Coker could of done it but I don't know if Dana coul do what Coker did they both fit the roles they have played well.
So Dana can help promote and build a multi million dollar company but he couldn't do what Coker did, an easier job at that?
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Pro Elite doesn't own Strikeforce. Not to be rude but it's completly wrong it's a pet peeve of mine when people say that.
Damn, I was sure it was but I checked and your right, they have a promotional and fighter agreement but Strikeforce is independant.




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