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Old 07-10-2008, 01:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Tito would take this in a boring fight, unfortunately.
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Another thing, whatever happened to his rematch with Renzo Gracie? Considering how that fight went you think that would have been priorty No.1.
Renzo doesn't want to rematch Frank.
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Too little to late, anybody really care anymore? I dont see either guy as the fighter they once were, Shamrock doesnt look nearly as impressive now that the sport has caught up to him and is in the process of passing him buy and frankly the same goes for Tito.
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I still think Frank has a good 3 fights left in him. He can still strike, he can still take a good punch and he can still grapple. He's not washed up just yet.
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I still think Frank has a good 3 fights left in him. He can still strike, he can still take a good punch and he can still grapple. He's not washed up just yet.
Frank isnt washed like Ken by a long shot but I feel like Frank was one of the first well rounded fighters and he was damn good but today alot of fighters are well rounded and most of them will really outclass Frank in at least one aspect of the game so he really isnt the huge threat he once was and I think within the next couple years he is really gonna fall of the map, Tito is kinda in the same boat as he was top dog a couple years ago but the new breed of fighters have eclipsed him and he failed to evolve along with them, today even though many of his comtemporaries have stayed on top he is becoming increasingly irellavent as its shown he cant hang in there anymore.
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Old 07-13-2008, 02:51 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I love Frank, but at this point, Tito beats him by decision. Tito's a different fighter than when they first fought, and if this is a 3 rounder, Frank's going to lose a decision.

I really don't care to see Shamrock vs Ortiz 2. Now, Shamrock vs Lawler/Smith would be seriously fun, since it'd most likely be a stand-up fight. Frank can throw dem thangs when need be.
I think tito has lost a lot of the momentum he used to have and frank has been consistently getting better through out the years. In terms of stand up I think frank is better and in terms of grappeling I also think frank is better.
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Stand-up, frank takes it, easily. Frank's takedown defense has never been good, and while he's very good on the ground, Tito is, too. Tito Ortiz has really solid top positioning, and he could take Frank down at will.

It pains me to type all that.
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Damn Damone, are you feeling ok? Talking down on Frank Shamrock isn't like you.

Tito takes it by a painful UD, Lawler takes it by TKO, Frank takes Ken by broken hip in the first, Frank subs Le in the rematch.
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Tito is much stronger so he would most likely take him down, pound him a bit, and hold him there. Maybe try some of his submissions again. Tito by UD.
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Another thing, whatever happened to his rematch with Renzo Gracie? Considering how that fight went you think that would have been priorty No.1.
who knows I would like to see another fight with renzo but we will see if it happens. I can see it going down after a couple of fights but I dont see it high up on franks shit to do list.

1. Tito
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hopefully he picks up the pace on the number of fights per year he does because him and cung le take for ever off in between fights
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