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Those two alone speak to the lack of bias against Russians. Well, Belarus is pretty close anyway in arlovskis case.
And isn't Cro Crop Croaatian not russian?




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What's sad about this fight is that Aleks is a better fighter in literally every aspect of the game than Kimbo.

Kimbo is a halfway decent brawler. He has a solid chin and some good boxing skills. But Aleks would kill him in the pocket and have no problem going toe-to-toe.

Aleks could submit Kimbo if he wanted (his submission game is decent, even if it's not his strong suit) and he could probably groundnpound him too.

This is a worse fight for Kimbo than Jeff Monson would be, because, stylistically, the is absolutely no way in hell that Kimbo is going to beat Aleks. Even if we ignore the 5 inch heigh advantage that favors Aleks and the weight advantage, the skill matchup is terrible.



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What's sad about this fight is that Aleks is a better fighter in literally every aspect of the game than Kimbo.

Kimbo is a halfway decent brawler. He has a solid chin and some good boxing skills. But Aleks would kill him in the pocket and have no problem going toe-to-toe.

Aleks could submit Kimbo if he wanted (his submission game is decent, even if it's not his strong suit) and he could probably groundnpound him too.

This is a worse fight for Kimbo than Jeff Monson would be, because, stylistically, the is absolutely no way in hell that Kimbo is going to beat Aleks. Even if we ignore the 5 inch heigh advantage that favors Aleks and the weight advantage, the skill matchup is terrible.
Pretty much the same could be said about any fight involving Kimbo and anyone of a mid tier level. I don't hate Kimbo but the hype has nothing to back it up. The only choice Elite have if they wish to continue with Kimbo as their poster boy is keep feeding him cans until the supermaket shelves are empty.




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Pretty much the same could be said about any fight involving Kimbo and anyone of a mid tier level. I don't hate Kimbo but the hype has nothing to back it up. The only choice Elite have if they wish to continue with Kimbo as their poster boy is keep feeding him cans until the supermaket shelves are empty.
I don't hate the guy either. I think he has good potential, but he's not as good as people think he is (by that I mean the people who buy the hype).

The truth is, I agree with you about the fact that Kimbo is well over his head. I think that Brett Rogers may be too much for him if that fight happens, and Antonio Silva will definitel smash him should that fight take place.

Personally, though, I'd like to see him fight a top tier guy, because I want to shut these critics up.

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And isn't Cro Crop Croaatian not russian?
You're right, of course he is. My bad.

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I don't hate the guy either. I think he has good potential, but he's not as good as people think he is (by that I mean the people who buy the hype).

The truth is, I agree with you about the fact that Kimbo is well over his head. I think that Brett Rogers may be too much for him if that fight happens, and Antonio Silva will definitel smash him should that fight take place.

Personally, though, I'd like to see him fight a top tier guy, because I want to shut these critics up.

EXC, sign Fedor for one night! Please! Make it happen!
Kimbo Fedor wouldn't even be legal as a fight the difference in ability would be so great. I am not a massive Big Tim fan but he got annihalated by Fedor. Kimbo would end up a grease stain on the mat.




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And did Thompson look knocked out to you when the ref stopped the Kimbo fight? lol Go ahead, deny that Thompson was winning on a points scale. lol.

Kimbo is not a good fighter. Aleks nailed Kimbo perfectly: A great showman, but nothing near a mid-tier MMA fighter.

However, Aleks' theory that the UFC doesn't want him because they don't want a Russian holding the title... I don't know about all that.

Are their any Russians in the UFC?
Isnt mirko cro cop russian? I have to disagree with you tho I think Kimbo is a GREAT stand up fighter. Hes got raw power and he can bob and weave. Maybe mma aint the place for him maybe he should have gotten in boxing. I think Kimbo would Knock Aleksander Emilianenko out if they kept the fight standing. The thompson fight showed Kimbos lack of conditioning and his severely weak ground game. Ok yall wanna hear it, overall Aleksander is the better fighter hands down, but I think he would have his hands full with Kimbo simply because Kimbo Slice can dish out and take major punishment.

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Cro Cop= short for Croatian Cop, I am guessing he is Croatian.

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i would def. pay to see Aleks knock off Kimbos Head, and it would be even funnier if Kimbo got in a punchers chance and actually took out Aleks and kept pounding on him, then im sure we'll see Fedor come to Elite XC, to seek revenge kinda like the good ol' Pride days, when Cro Cop did the same to Aleks lol

then Bigger brother had to come in and the fight with Cro Cop was a historical moment
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Ok so for all the Kimbo haters who say theyre not...Did yall not see how kimbo man handled tank abbot? who was (from what I heard from fans) arguably the hardest hitter in in elite xc? The way I see it anybody tries to go toe to toe with Kimbo is in danger of needing facial reconstruction. They talk about not wanting a russian champ? Trust me, mma would take 1000 russian champions before a "thug" from the "hood". Thats why Im a proud Kimbo fan, line em up so he can knock him out. They would lay down and GIVE aleks the belt before they admit Kimbo is a contender. But we can speculate till we develop carpal tunnel. Only the W's and L's can end the debate. Truth be told, Aleks and Kimbo can end up a stain on the mat from ANYBODY in mma. Brandon Verra could pull off a RNC just outta nowhere and tap tap! I know he aint in their weight class hes just the first name popped in mind. Just like football and any given sunday...it could be a lucky punch, mid-fight somebody tear a acl...anything can happen in the cage plain and simple.

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