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post #41 of 64 (permalink) Old 07-24-2008, 03:12 PM
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Did yall not see how kimbo man handled tank abbot? who was (from what I heard from fans) arguably the hardest hitter in in elite xc?
WHAT THE F*CK?!?

Who said Tank is the hardest hitter in EXC? Tank is powerful, but he's not the most powerful fighter in the division. At best, he's fourth, behind Antonio Silva, Brett Rodgers and James Thompson. You might even be able to put Ricco's fat ass ahead of him too.

Tank used to be arguable. That day is long gone.

Kimbo isn't arguable either, just so you know. I don't have a problem with the fighter, but I have a problem with anyone who thinks he's a top ten fighter. He struggled with Thompson. Imagine if that had been Jerome LeBanner, or some other legit striker, Kimbo would be in the hospital.



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Ok so for all the Kimbo haters who say theyre not...Did yall not see how kimbo man handled tank abbot? who was (from what I heard from fans) arguably the hardest hitter in in elite xc? The way I see it anybody tries to go toe to toe with Kimbo is in danger of needing facial reconstruction. They talk about not wanting a russian champ? Trust me, mma would take 1000 russian champions before a "thug" from the "hood". Thats why Im a proud Kimbo fan, line em up so he can knock him out. They would lay down and GIVE aleks the belt before they admit Kimbo is a contender. But we can speculate till we develop carpal tunnel. Only the W's and L's can end the debate. Truth be told, Aleks and Kimbo can end up a stain on the mat from ANYBODY in mma. Brandon Verra could pull off a RNC just outta nowhere and tap tap! I know he aint in their weight class hes just the first name popped in mind. Just like football and any given sunday...it could be a lucky punch, mid-fight somebody tear a acl...anything can happen in the cage plain and simple.
You're totally right man, I would have never thought Kimbo would be able to man handle a 43 year old man who is 1-8 in his last 9 MMA fights, going back as far as 10 years ago.

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Ok so for all the Kimbo haters who say theyre not...Did yall not see how kimbo man handled tank abbot? who was (from what I heard from fans) arguably the hardest hitter in in elite xc? The way I see it anybody tries to go toe to toe with Kimbo is in danger of needing facial reconstruction. They talk about not wanting a russian champ? Trust me, mma would take 1000 russian champions before a "thug" from the "hood". Thats why Im a proud Kimbo fan, line em up so he can knock him out. They would lay down and GIVE aleks the belt before they admit Kimbo is a contender. But we can speculate till we develop carpal tunnel. Only the W's and L's can end the debate. Truth be told, Aleks and Kimbo can end up a stain on the mat from ANYBODY in mma. Brandon Verra could pull off a RNC just outta nowhere and tap tap! I know he aint in their weight class hes just the first name popped in mind. Just like football and any given sunday...it could be a lucky punch, mid-fight somebody tear a acl...anything can happen in the cage plain and simple.
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sorry guys what can i say? I dont know if Kimbo a top ten fighter but yall will see, he still developing, im sure he gonna take a few losses but just let me have my hero man. He made it from bein a homeless old man to elite xc so that gives me hope that i can make it. Yall make it sound like he a pushover. Im not sayin he the greatest fighter or even a great fighter. He a big bully who fought his way up out the hood. My only argument is that he got some good hands and INCREDIBLE punching power. Ill try not to make anybody else puke with my Kimbo comments but heres my last one...Kimbo Slice with the elite xc heavyweight championship belt on his waist! Ok after yall finish puking, can someone fill me in on tim sylvia? Some people tend to believe he took a dive! Tim wouldnt do that. Would he?

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sorry guys what can i say? I dont know if Kimbo a top ten fighter but yall will see, he still developing, im sure he gonna take a few losses but just let me have my hero man. He made it from bein a homeless old man to elite xc so that gives me hope that i can make it. Yall make it sound like he a pushover. Im not sayin he the greatest fighter or even a great fighter. He a big bully who fought his way up out the hood. My only argument is that he got some good hands and INCREDIBLE punching power. Ill try not to make anybody else puke with my Kimbo comments but heres my last one...Kimbo Slice with the elite xc heavyweight championship belt on his waist! Ok after yall finish puking, can someone fill me in on tim sylvia? Some people tend to believe he took a dive! Tim wouldnt do that. Would he?
Tim wouldn't take a dive, and if he did he wouldn't talk about the Fedor fight the way that he did. Tim showed a lot of respect for Fedor, and those punches were legit. Tim's not a good enough actor to do that.

Kimbo will not win the EXC belt, because he won't beat Ricco, he won't beat Antonio Silva and he won't beat Brett Rodgers. They may sign him up for the title fight he doesn't deserve (a fight that should be between Silva and Rodgers), but he'll get smashed by a real top tier opponent.

You can believe that Kimbo has serious punching power, but he could barely stop James Thompson, a task that took one of my favorite prospects Neil Grove 10 seconds and Aleks Emelianenko a grand total of 11. Those guys hit hard, and Kimbo's not on that level. I mean, even Brett Rodgers did it in under a round.

I'm not sure where you're hearing these stories about Kimbo, but whatever, it doesn't really matter to me. What matters is that you're trying to legitimize a fighter who is not top 30 and has yet to beat a legit fighter. You can be a fan, but don't push things that are so obviously bullsh*t.



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Tim wouldn't take a dive, and if he did he wouldn't talk about the Fedor fight the way that he did. Tim showed a lot of respect for Fedor, and those punches were legit. Tim's not a good enough actor to do that.

Kimbo will not win the EXC belt, because he won't beat Ricco, he won't beat Antonio Silva and he won't beat Brett Rodgers. They may sign him up for the title fight he doesn't deserve (a fight that should be between Silva and Rodgers), but he'll get smashed by a real top tier opponent.

You can believe that Kimbo has serious punching power, but he could barely stop James Thompson, a task that took one of my favorite prospects Neil Grove 10 seconds and Aleks Emelianenko a grand total of 11. Those guys hit hard, and Kimbo's not on that level. I mean, even Brett Rodgers did it in under a round.

I'm not sure where you're hearing these stories about Kimbo, but whatever, it doesn't really matter to me. What matters is that you're trying to legitimize a fighter who is not top 30 and has yet to beat a legit fighter. You can be a fan, but don't push things that are so obviously bullsh*t.


your absolutely right the only thing is I think he will be able to beat rogers and then no one else after that. kimbo has decent striking and thats it. when he fought thompson he got exposed. thompson was a pride reject that cant hang with top tier fighters and kimbo cant hang w/ him so that says alot

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Wow dude not even close lol. Im russian and heres my opinion on this...... aleks is completely right about Kimbo and completely wrong about the UFC. He and his bro didnt go simply vcause of money and there own reasons. Plus UFC would take any natanality. The only thing i could see about the UFC is almost all its fights are prettyu much in the US. On the kimbo issue HE IS TRASH, a bum, not evenn a semi decent fighter. He almost lost to thompson and would have lost if not for the stoppage. Aleks would dispose of him in the 1st round for sure.
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your absolutely right the only thing is I think he will be able to beat rogers and then no one else after that. kimbo has decent striking and thats it. when he fought thompson he got exposed. thompson was a pride reject that cant hang with top tier fighters and kimbo cant hang w/ him so that says alot
Rodgers is more arguable, as he's also relatively untested, but from the outcome of Rodgers' fight with Thompson (where he put James out in 2:24) is so much more impressive than the Thompson/Kimbo fight that I want to toss the edge in the striking to Rodgers.



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Isnt mirko cro cop russian? I have to disagree with you tho I think Kimbo is a GREAT stand up fighter. Hes got raw power and he can bob and weave. Maybe mma aint the place for him maybe he should have gotten in boxing. I think Kimbo would Knock Aleksander Emilianenko out if they kept the fight standing. The thompson fight showed Kimbos lack of conditioning and his severely weak ground game. Ok yall wanna hear it, overall Aleksander is the better fighter hands down, but I think he would have his hands full with Kimbo simply because Kimbo Slice can dish out and take major punishment.
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How? Neither of them are Russian.
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