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snakerattle79 07-17-2008 02:37 PM

Aleks Emelianenko on Kimbo and the UFC
 
On Kimbo:
Aleks Emelianenko: In reality, as a fighter, as a fighter heís weak. For me anyway. My promoter [Vadim Finkelshtein] suggested this fight to his promoters, that I go there and fight Kimbo. And theyíre not taking the fight. They realize that for me heís too weak.

I wonít be fighting with him, playing with him. Iíll go there and tear him apart, bite him in two. Exactly like it was with me and [James] Thompson, whom it took almost three rounds for Kimbo to put away. No. Heís to be congratulated on one hand, though. Ö

What does he need? For people to know about him. For people to have seen him. Everyone earns money anyway they can these days. Heís not a fighter, heís not a sportsman. Iíd say heís more like a showman. I can say this about him.

As a sportsman heís very one-dimensional. Hands? Is that all? These days everyone can use their hands. When fighters at a decent level compete, you wonít understand who he was before. A boxer or a wrestler. Ö I train with boxers. I used to beat -- I now beat world champions. I box with them. Iím not a fighter that fought with fatties, with who knows who on some field or something. Thatís not a display of his prowess as a fighter. Itís just a show. They are elements of a show.

On the UFC:
Aleks Emelianenko: I also wanted to fight in the UFC . But as a Russian fighter, Iím not interesting to them. They are interested in their own, in Americans. Thatís why they didnít let me compete in their organization. They were saying that ďWe donít want Aleksander to fight for us.Ē Because Iíd arrive there, beat everyone and then take the belt back to Russia. They donít need that.

Those organizers, promoters, they need their own person. Thatís how they make their money. And thatís how they carry themselves, the UFC. I know that as of right now, theyíve ruined relationships with many and that many fighters have left them. They are now facing some very serious competition, and I think theyíll fall. I think theyíll fall to the second tier. To the place where they were, when Pride still existed.

Pride was better; Pride was number one in the world. So I think that itís criticism of the organizers -- itís not a criticism of the fighters. Theyíre worthy sportsmen. Good fighters. Itís a criticism of the organizers, of the promoters. They take everything and just wreck it. Instead they should be strengthening everything, making everything stronger, stronger and stronger. But people are leaving them.

Instead they now have very serious, very worthy competition in the world. And not that much time will go by before things change.


****Aleks is thinking the same things that Hardcore Fans is thinking, Im not surprised that he's thinking that way*****


http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles...o-Part-2-13709

Toxic 07-17-2008 03:14 PM

I hate when people say that the UFC was #2 to Pride, if the UFC's puchase of Pride showed us anything it was that the UFC and Pride were equals, some Pride guys came over and beat UFC guys, some UFC guys beat PRide guys, the playing fields were equal, the UFC was not #2 and neither was Pride.

crispsteez 07-17-2008 04:31 PM

wow he killed a bear. i guess that portion of the article had the biggest impression on me.

xeberus 07-17-2008 05:13 PM

I love aleks.

The cold eyes of someone who would murder you violently, reach into your pocket and take a single cigarette from the pack simply because he didn't feel like asking.

wukkadb 07-17-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 611577)
I hate when people say that the UFC was #2 to Pride, if the UFC's puchase of Pride showed us anything it was that the UFC and Pride were equals, some Pride guys came over and beat UFC guys, some UFC guys beat PRide guys, the playing fields were equal, the UFC was not #2 and neither was Pride.

By 2007 this was true but there was a time where Pride was #1 and UFC #2, both in talent and also how big the events were. Pride would sell out 60,000+ crowds consistently... Pride from 2000-20005 blew UFC away from 2000-2005 IMO.

Sinister 07-17-2008 07:18 PM

How can he say the UFC is only interested in there own? Which I'm pretty sure means Americans. How untrue that statement is. Does the UFC cater to Americans more? Of course, there based out of the USA just like PRIDE was based out of Japan and catered more to Japanese fighters.

The UFC has plenty of fighters from various countries and promotes them just as much as there American fighters. Christ, GSP and Anderson Silva are hyped through the roof. Aleks probably wanted more money than he's worth and wouldn't take less, sounds like someone else he's close to.

wukkadb 07-17-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

We offered for me to fight Barnett now, and they donít want to. We were sitting down together, and I said letís fight. And he said I donít want to fight you, youíre an insane fighter.
Lol nice

The Legend 07-17-2008 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 611577)
I hate when people say that the UFC was #2 to Pride, if the UFC's puchase of Pride showed us anything it was that the UFC and Pride were equals, some Pride guys came over and beat UFC guys, some UFC guys beat PRide guys, the playing fields were equal, the UFC was not #2 and neither was Pride.

Agreed, and it is getting old and annoying how if a old Pride fighter beats a UFC fighter people go I told you Pride was better and vice versa.

Shamrock-Ortiz 07-17-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinister (Post 611859)
Aleks probably wanted more money than he's worth and wouldn't take less, sounds like someone else he's close to.

If you are referring to Fedor, Fedor does whatever his manager Vadim Finklestein does, he has nothing to do with what contracts are decided. Also money wasn't the issue with Fedor, it was the Sambo tournaments he wanted to do.

So just like you said "How untrue that statement is"

Sinister 07-17-2008 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamrock-Ortiz (Post 611949)
If you are referring to Fedor, Fedor does whatever his manager Vadim Finklestein does, he has nothing to do with what contracts are decided. Also money wasn't the issue with Fedor, it was the Sambo tournaments he wanted to do.

So just like you said "How untrue that statement is"

Actually money was an issue with Fedor, he even admitted to it in quite a few interviews. $2 Million a fight is what he was looking for. The Sambo tournaments I'm aware of, just didn't really fit into what I was talking about.


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