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post #11 of 45 (permalink) Old 07-20-2008, 02:17 PM
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Might I ask why GSP is over Fedor in your mind?




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Fedor's win over Tim is impressive but its not like hes the first guy to have ever floored Sylvia in the opening round...

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Might I ask why GSP is over Fedor in your mind?
He has more wins over top 10 level fighters! Silva and GSP was cleaning out there divisions over the past two years. Yesterday was Fedor's only meaningful victory since Cro Cop!

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Might I ask why GSP is over Fedor in your mind?
Well since Fedor's last big win before Sylvia(Cro Cop August of 05) Fedor only has three good wins Cro Cop, Hunt, and Sylvia. Whereas GSP has 7 good wins Trigg, Sherk, Penn, Hughes X2, Koscheck, and Serra.

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Well since Fedor's last big win before Sylvia(Cro Cop August of 05) Fedor only has three good wins Cro Cop, Hunt, and Sylvia. Whereas GSP has 7 good wins Trigg, Sherk, Penn, Hughes X2, Koscheck, and Serra.
I understand that aspect, but doesn't a fighters entire career matter at all?

Fedor has never been honestly beaten in a match to date. and though two years out of his 8 years of fighting weren't top competitors, do you really think GSP or A. Silva for that matter could sit on the ground with Big Nog and win the fight? Or crush Tim Sylvia in under a minute? Or go their entire careers without suffering a loss (barring the cut loss)?

No one has figured out how to beat Fedor in his entire career. The same can't be said for GSP or A. Silva. You can't argue that.

Even according to the harshest Fedor critic only 2-3 of his 28 wins were gimmes from weaker opponents. How can anyone deny the guy his spot as number one?




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Mine goes: Silva, GSP, Fedor
Wow, God is only in 3rd???


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Me personally, I think Fedor is the best fighter on the planet.

People can rank him behind GSP and Anderson if they want, but the reason is because of who Fedors fought, not because he is a worse fighter than those two, so I'm fine with that.

Fedor fights I want to see..

Fedor vs. Josh Barnett
Fedor vs. Randy Couture
Fedor vs. Tim Sylvia - DEMOLISHED
Fedor vs. Andrei Arlovski - DEMOLISHED

hmmmmm, i wonder how many become reality..

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Fedor lost from a cut.
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I got GSP, Fedor, then Anderson. They are all great but Fedor has dominanted two of the top 5 in his divison and Anderson has as well but honestly I think beating Nog and Sylvia is better han beating Henderson, and Franklin.
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My criteria is a little different.

I think it goes -
1. Silva
2. Fedor
3. GSP

We can argue records, but i think the fashion of HOW they win is the most important. Who looks the most dominant in the ring? GSP looks great for sure, but Fedor and Silva look like men fighting children. Silva edges out Fedor imo because he looks like he could literally kill his opponent if he had the whim.

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I still think BJ Penn is the best P4P fighter in the world, at least when he is motivated, #2 is GSP but the problem with these two is they lack the killer instinct of Anderson or Fedor who always come come motivated an ready to go, Although undeniably Fedor has fought the best HW's the world has to offer and took the fight to every one of them I dont see the HW division as the most talented so I find it hard personally to rank the most talented guy in the weakest talent wise division the best P4P fighter in the world especially when its the heaviest division, I mean Fedor beating Sylvia talent wise would be like BJ Penn beating Chris Leben only the 30lb diffrance would be a larger % of there overall mass, I also find it hard to believe Fedor would have been nearly as sucessful in MMA if Sambo was as widely respected as BJJ in the sport. Anderson Silva has merely looked like a monster in one of the weakest divisions and has really only dominated Rich Franklin twice and Chris Leben, I mean Hendo took the fight to him and proved he was human in there first round before Anderson destroyed him in the second and Lutter who has always been mediocre put up a decent fight, I find Anderson has done alot to to show he is a great fighter but he really hasnt done it against anyone of the caliber in some of the lighter divisions,

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3. Fedor
4. Anderson




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