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post #61 of 79 (permalink) Old 08-03-2008, 02:49 AM
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robbie is a beast....but im goin with frankie on this
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Frankie can stand with Robbie, as he's better technically than Lawler. Years and years of training with Mo Smith will do that to a man. Also, Frank's chin is solid, so I don't see Lawler really hurting him in that aspect.

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Frank's a more technical striker and has a very good chin. I see him KO'ing Lawler.

Also, Frank's ground game is better.
When your wrong your wrong and you are wrong LOL!

Really I see a very improved Robbie Lawler and people don’t give him much credit for the changes he’s made.

Watching him fight smith who is a very good striker it was nice to see him slip almost every punch to some degree be patient and take his time. The old Robbie would have just ran in swinging till someone got ko'd.

As for the ground game (that we have yet to see for a wile now) Im willing to go out on a limb there and say training with matt Hughes has probably boned up that weak spot quite a bit. Im not debating about who's better ON the ground but Im not convinced Shamrock can get it TO the ground and if he dose I think he will have the edge just not some massive advantage.

If this fight stays striking shamrock will take a tremendous butt whooping. Robbie is faster, has better head movement and strikes harder, I cant see how anyone would think the odds are that Shamrock would beat him at this point in time.

I love nostalgia as much as the next guy but I cant see Robbie Lawler as a turning point for Frank, Robbie’s too good and I think you overrate shamrock quite a bit.

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By any math the fighters Frank has beaten over the last nine years had a record of 18-11-2 before fighting Frank. That is indisputable. Does this impress you?
What impresses me more is that you've went from 31-30-2 gotten proved wrong, and are now at 18-11-2. And are still disputing and discounting his ability. The fact that you'll altar his numbers to fit your arguments picture is funny, wait a minute, is that you Cesar??............

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Le is not at Lawler's level either, but even if he was does Frank standing with him make him a better fighter than Lawler?
Until Lawler fights with Frank we'll not know who is better. But if we were to go on acheivements, titles, and notable victories as you're suggesting, than yes Frank would be better.

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What's your evidence..... rankings? Not good enough. Giving evidence of acheivements and rankings will not effect the outcome of this fight. Franks carreer has been vastly superior to Robbies in every aspect. If you choose to dispute this fact I'll prove you wrong so It'd be wise to move on from this point.

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Haven't attacked you. I think Frank has better wrestling than Robbie, I beleive his striking is vastly underrated and he has more experience.


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Frank would knock Robbie out. I never understood all this hype with Robbie Lawler, yea hes pretty fun to watch but who has he really beaten. Frank has faught and beat tougher guys and will outstrike Robbie like he did to Baroni. I hate Frank and like Robbie but Robbie will get worked.




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Frank would knock Robbie out. I never understood all this hype with Robbie Lawler, yea hes pretty fun to watch but who has he really beaten. Frank has faught and beat tougher guys and will outstrike Robbie like he did to Baroni. I hate Frank and like Robbie but Robbie will get worked.
Who has Frank beat lately? Robbie's been facing better competition.

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Who has Frank beat lately? Robbie's been facing better competition.

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Naw, I am thinking Avy, because if Robbie knocks Frank out I want your avatar to be Frank on the mat staring in to the lights not knowing where he is. But if you are to scared for that possibility then I guess I will do a sig(but I prefer an avy)

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Naw, I am thinking Avy, because if Robbie knocks Frank out I want your avatar to be Frank on the mat staring in to the lights not knowing where he is. But if you are to scared for that possibility then I guess I will do a sig(but I prefer an avy)


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The top 20 fighters in his division would destroy Frank. Frank only takes easy fights. Lawler should run right through him. If you want to be considered a great fighter you have to fight tougher competiton seriously Phil Baroni (washed up for years) Elvis Sinosec (common seriously average fighter at best.) Chris Leben would Knockout Frank Shamrock anyday.

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