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post #21 of 31 (permalink) Old 07-28-2008, 08:09 PM
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Antonio Silva is legit.

It was definitely a screwover on Silva IMO. They really need to market that guy instead of Kimbo.

Other than Carano and Kimbo, it seems EXC is hesitant to get solidly behind any of it's fighters that aren't already big like Carano and Slice.

I think Lawler and Silva are incredibly marketable!




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I beg to differ. Silva has to be considerd a top 10 heavyweight.



Only as much as the UFC was. Eilers was given a UFC title shot against Andrei Arlovski off a fresh loss to Paul Buentello. A title shot off of a loss? Yet alot of fans criticize EliteXC for giving him a shot when he has recently won 10 of his last 11 fights.

It's a bit of a catch 22.
Agreed! Eilers wasn't a horrible choice like some people are making it out to be. Ten wins and a loss to Pedro Rizzo isn't too bad!

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if they hadn't show Nick's fight i'd have been irrate. i've been a huge Nick Diaz fan since he began his televised career with the UFC. even though it was clearly lopsided on papers it's a 3rd of my reason for tuning in.

but i agree... the HW fight was important to show. if they couldnt show it... they shouldnt have had it on the card. oh well, at least there were no busted retired strippers vying for attention, bill goldburg or circus acts. gotta continue to give CBS credit for cleaning up EXC's show this time around.

EXC should throw Kimbo to Silva after his next fight. build up the following for Antonio -- hopefully. they need to do something with him (Slice) that pays dividends before he loses to a nobody.


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Eilers only got the title shot at UFC 53 against Arlovski because Buentello got injured and there was no else available to fight.

Ironically enough, Buentello recovered in time to fight on that card (against Kevin Jordon) but by then the Arlovski-Eilers fight was booked and set.

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Eilers only got the title shot at UFC 53 against Arlovski because Buentello got injured and there was no else available to fight.

Ironically enough, Buentello recovered in time to fight on that card (against Kevin Jordon) but by then the Arlovski-Eilers fight was booked and set.


This adds even more merit to my argument.

I've seen numerous posters say that Eilers is a can who shouldn't have had a title shot, Bigfoot should go to UFC and so fourth.

Eilers has won 10 out of 11 of his last fights so he got a shot at a title. If he sucked so much, why was he eligible for a title shot in the beloved UFC? Because Buentello was injured and they had nobody else? I think they could have found someone else had they wanted to.

Remember, Buentello recoverd in time to fight for the belt, but Eilers was still the one who fought Arlovski.

I think the EliteXC critics are great at pointing out the faults of the org, and not as good at comparing and contrasting in an unbiased manner.


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The point is that neither of the guys are top heavyweights. Neither of them deserved to be called champions.
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The point is that neither of the guys are top heavyweights. Neither of them deserved to be called champions.

Neither of who?


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I don't see why they showed the Cyborg fight and not the HW title fight...? It just doesn't make sense unless they are really pushing to secure the womens MMA as their niche in the sport.


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I don't see why they showed the Cyborg fight and not the HW title fight...? It just doesn't make sense unless they are really pushing to secure the womens MMA as their niche in the sport.
The purpose was to set up Carano vs the winner for the Oct. card.
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The purpose was to set up Carano vs the winner for the Oct. card.
I understand why in that aspect, but they made their HW champ into a HW chump. They guy can't even make it onto a main event card over a couple of women fighters that are relative no-names.


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