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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 07-31-2008, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
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Need thoughts of experienced fighters and students of martial arts (Tae Kwon Do...)

I have a friend who has trained in Tae Kwon Do (TKD) and he basically said that Karate and Judo are stupid. He went on to say that MMA is just entertainment but what I think he was referring to was that in MMA they are fighting for sport rather than fighting in self-defense because they have to.

My question is what do you think about Karate, Judo and TKD as arts in there own right and how they play into MMA. I mentioned Kyokushin (Masutatsu Ohyama's full contact karate) but he didn't listen.

I basically said Anderson Silva and Fedor are the best fighters in the world and could probably easily rock any of his TKD masters. He then pulled up the clip of Ryo Chonan getting the flying scissor heel hook on Anderson Silva and then laughing at him. I then told him that move was basically a fluke because it works 1 out of 100 times and that Ryo Chonan would actually get destroyed by Silva.

Then I'm like fine show me Fedor defeats. He pulled on hong man choi vid and said he almost lost. I said uhh no, he got armbar and could have easily broken HMC's arm. He then goes on to compare Fedor's armbar and says its just as flukey as Ryo Chonan's flying scissor heel hook. He then proceeded to just call Fedor fat, and a fat guy who imposes his will using his weight because he could not find any more videos where Fedor was getting hit (even though there are).

General comments and thoughts on martial arts mentioned would be appreciated.
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Anderson Silva was pretty successful as a pure muay thai fighter. at the same skill level Muay Thai VS TKD the Muay Thai fighter will normally win. It would take a very high level TKD fighter to beat Anderson.

A TKD round kinda feels like getting hit with a gloved hand hard. A Muay Thai Round feels like getting hit with a baseball bat.

Fedor practices Sambo which is a pretty deadly art.

all that said you can't really compare 2 arts and say one is better than the other. With a mastery of any art you can go far and as a MMA fighter I feel you should try to at least familiarize yourself will as many as you can and use the best aspects of them in your game.
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post #3 of 4 (permalink) Old 07-31-2008, 02:05 PM
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Your friend is an idiot. TKD is about as effective a self defense art as Ballet. It's like the ultimate example of a fighting art evolving into a sport and losing it's practical merit.

Just have him look up modern army Combatives.

And finally, yet again, Chonans victory was not a fluke, he was well on his way to winning that fight and just happened to end it in spectacular fashion, after having out struck and outwrestled Silva for over two rounds.
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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old 07-31-2008, 02:21 PM
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Judo is actually pretty bad ass, and I don't think a TKD guy could hang with a Judo guy no holds barred. Same goes for Kyokuchin. TKD guys doesn't even keep their f#%ing hands up for some reason, which leads to hilarious knockouts that would not even rock Mark Hunt.

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