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miguelclass 08-17-2008 05:55 PM

fedor is not the best
 
Fedor is not the best, and is not going to be the best, until he starts beating some good fighters again. The last good fighter he beat was Mirko Filipovic in 2005. I know he has beaten Noguiera twice, but that was 4 years ago.

Fedor has an entertaining, explosive style but he is not very technical in most of his striking or ground and pound. He wins because he is so fast and explosive that people get caught with a crazy punch, which he throws with the side of his hand too much and is why he breaks it, or a submission which is his only technical strength.

Anderson Silva is an amazing fighter to watch because of the technicality and finesse that he uses to finish his opponents. His striking is "a ballet of highlights" and his submission are well versed. However, being king of the middleweight division and having a couple wins in light heavyweight doesn't say as much as being dominant in one of the more stacked weight classes.

This is why i think GSP, even though i like Anderson and Fedor more, is the best fighter. He has beaten everyman he has ever fought and is dominant in one of the most stacked weight classes and has beaten a lot of top competition. Just look at all the fights he has had in the last couple of years, Frank Trigg, Sean Sherk, BJ Penn, Matt Hughes, Matt Serra, and Jon Fitch. He got beat by Matt Hughes at his prime, then came back better and destroyed him twice, and lost against Matt Serra because of some lucky punches, but then came back better and destroyed him. He is good in all areas of the game even more so than Fedor and Silva.

BJ Penn could become the best fighter if he wasn't so stupid. He is the best lightweight in the world right now and just proved it. There are still a good five fights waiting for him and challenging GSP is the worst thing for the sport and for him right now. After he clears out the lightweight division, then it's time to think about a move up in weight, like Anderson Silva did. It sucks because BJ is probably the most naturally talented fighter alive and could be the best if he wanted, but until Fedor beats Andrei Arlovski, Josh Barnett, and Randy Couture, or Anderson Silva finds some new middleweights that are worthy or dominates at light heavyweight, GSP will be the best and you can't say he doesn't deserve that title.

browncow 08-17-2008 06:09 PM

Couldn't this discussion wait until AFTER Anderson gets KO'd by Cote?:dunno:

70seven 08-17-2008 06:53 PM

Thanks for your kickass thread, this is all new to us.

bigdog89 08-17-2008 07:13 PM

Ok then what do you call him dominating nogueira not just once but twice who else can say that in regards to the heavyweight division.And barnett and arlovski respectively.. ok barnett couldnt become pride champ not even the tournament champ in the OW tourney in 06 and couldnt beat cro cop who if i recall correctly was dominated by fedor.And arlovski beat big tim once. the other times was knocked out and was beaten in a decision.
Barnett and arlosvki both have shown to be all around good fighters.Barnetts being better on the ground and arlovski on the feet.Arlovskis wins outside of ben rothwell have lately been against almost pure grapplers.And rothwell wasnt even the IFL champ.

bail3yz 08-17-2008 07:30 PM

I always stop reading threads when I read the first super ignorant sentence..

So I stopped right here...

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Originally Posted by miguelclass (Post 641116)
Fedor is not the best, and is not going to be the best, until he proves that he can beat some real people.


Darkwraith 08-17-2008 07:44 PM

Prepare for the hate-fest!


Meshuggeth 08-17-2008 08:13 PM

Haha "real people".

Guy 08-17-2008 08:26 PM

Says a guy with 7 posts...

No he's right though. Fedor is NOT the best. Eddie Sanchez is the best followed by Bob Sapp and Ken Shamrock.

Darkwraith 08-17-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Guy (Post 641183)
Says a guy with 7 posts...

No he's right though. Fedor is NOT the best. Eddie Sanchez is the best followed by Bob Sapp and Ken Shamrock.

No no...Rob Emerson. Period. Nuff said! :praise01: :praise01: :praise01:

Gluteal Cleft 08-17-2008 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguelclass (Post 641116)
Fedor is not the best, and is not going to be the best, until he proves that he can beat some real people.

Yeah... he'd have to beat someone like... oh, say, the current UFC HW champ, or maybe the former HW champ before someone could actually take him seriously. :confused02:


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