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post #11 of 62 (permalink) Old 09-20-2008, 06:15 AM
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TO be honest with you guys I can see where this guys coming from. Elite xc hasnt been living up to there end of the deal. In the words of shonie carter they treat this guy like a wet food stamp. KJ was the champion and I think that after he won and defended his title against two great fighters it was more then time for them to renegotiate his contract.

He was trying to use the Diaz fight as a bargening chip so that he could go ahead and get the money he felt he deserved. elite xc didnt want to budge and didnt renegotiate the contract when clearly it should have been renegotiated. it would have been good for both sides to renegotiate KJ's contract.

To be honest both sides dropped the ball on this one. Elite XC should have held up their end of the bargain or at the very least tried to strike some deal with KJ where he got some more money ie. a win bonus or something. KJ should have also not tried to hold the title hostage because he is the champion and should defend the title accordingly.

I mean this is what the guy does for a living can you blame him for wanting to get payed what hes worth? Just a shitty situation all around that didnt have to be that way.
everything you say is wrong.....
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Good he should be stripped of his title as he is refusing to fight the fighter they select for him and as the champ your not suppoesed to do that.


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everything you say is wrong.....
are you a fighter? do you train? If not then you more then likely dont know what KJ Noons is going through right now. He is at the top of his game and he is trying to negotiate a good deal while he can because he doesnt know if

1. he will get injured and cant fight any more
2. the promotion will screw him
3. his boxing career falls through

hes playing it smart and any one who isnt an idiot would do the same. Thats right. Who else has done this?
Randy Couture
Tito Ortiz
BJ Penn
Rich Franklin
Roger Huerta

its common sense. If you dont try to renegotiate when your on top your a ******* idiot. When is he goingrenegotiate when he has one fight left on his contract? Why would he do that when he as champion should be getting paid more.

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He wants to fight more deserving people? Then go to a diff. organization because Diaz is more than willing and deserving that fight. Was funny when Nate said someone needs to stop being a little bitch and fight his bro after his win over Neer Nick is the shit for real, and Nate is sure turning into one helluva' fighter too. Nicks loving this news after getting dodged.
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i think its a good decision. if u are a fighter than fight .. if not than go home
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TO be honest with you guys I can see where this guys coming from. Elite xc hasnt been living up to there end of the deal. In the words of shonie carter they treat this guy like a wet food stamp. KJ was the champion and I think that after he won and defended his title against two great fighters it was more then time for them to renegotiate his contract.

He was trying to use the Diaz fight as a bargening chip so that he could go ahead and get the money he felt he deserved. elite xc didnt want to budge and didnt renegotiate the contract when clearly it should have been renegotiated. it would have been good for both sides to renegotiate KJ's contract.

To be honest both sides dropped the ball on this one. Elite XC should have held up their end of the bargain or at the very least tried to strike some deal with KJ where he got some more money ie. a win bonus or something. KJ should have also not tried to hold the title hostage because he is the champion and should defend the title accordingly.

I mean this is what the guy does for a living can you blame him for wanting to get payed what hes worth? Just a shitty situation all around that didnt have to be that way.

i agree....i mean i dont agree with the dodging of a fight when your the champ but from the business side of things when else as a fighter are you in a better situation to negotiate......

Obviously, everyone wants to see the fight and its my belief that KJ woud fight Nick but he wanted to try to get some respect from the org and have them honor the terms of thier original contract....from that perspective what would you guys do to try to get fair treatment from XC????? Serious Question......I mean when is the right time to try to get what was promised to you...after he looses to Nick....
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I think both parties are in the wrong, I think Elite XC should have offered Noons another fight and as long as he accepted allowed him to maintain his title, in the mean time they should have had Diaz fight again in a number 1 contenders fight to cement him undeniably as the true top contender, then you offer Noons the fight again and call his bluff, This crap were the champ never loses his title takes a steaming pile of crap on the Titles status and quite frankly Elite XC titles arent a very elite status already.




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Who else does Elite XC have for him to fight guys? They have 2 fighters Diaz and Alvarez. He wont fight Diaz and Eddie is getting married.

Noons is upset about the way he's being treated and that's fine but if you aren't willing to defend your title your going to be stripped of it.
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If he is out of jail, they have Krazy Horse, and Edson Berto. Those are really the only LW's I know of that EXC have besides KJ, Diaz, and Edwards.

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Good, hopefully this makes this fights come faster.

PS: Isn't it retarded how good Alvarez suddenly got?
ya i argee it was kinda of like where the hell did this guy come from he really stepped up in the dream tournament i really enjoyed all of his fights he would have likely won if not for the eye injury or whatever especially since his ground and pound is much more vicious than hansens

and on Noons getting stripped ITS ABOUT TIME im a firm believer that a real champ should defend his title against whatever opponent the organization asks him to no excuses

PS his wife is sooo hot

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