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post #21 of 62 (permalink) Old 09-20-2008, 03:53 PM
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I'm glad Noons got stripped. If you are champion you have to fight who they tell you to fight no matter what. If you won't do that then losing your title is appropriate.
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If he wanted to keep that title he should have sucked it up and fought Nick! EXC made the right decision in that regard!

But in a way I agree with KJ when he tried to get a better deal for himself while he was still the champion. When the guy that you beat to become the champion is getting more exposure and making more money then you then you know something is wrong. Why shouldn't he try to renegotiate his contract!

But in the end what does it really matter. By next year EXC will be nothing but a distant memory so those championships will mean diddly!

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I agree with this 100%. A champion doesn't turn down fights.

Reguardless if he likes his opponent or not.

Now look what you did to yourself K.J. You are really unmarketable. The gold was the only thing that kept you afloat.

No one will care anymore.
Agree with you, fair play to them for doing it and not taking no bull.
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KJ should have just fought Diaz, but to be honest, he was getting shafted in the hopes that Diaz would beat him.

I think this is great for KJ though, he's clearly talented, and I think he'll find a new home rather easily (if he leaves EXC). I'd definitely like to see him fight some of the UFC LWs.
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KJ should have just fought Diaz, but to be honest, he was getting shafted in the hopes that Diaz would beat him.

I think this is great for KJ though, he's clearly talented, and I think he'll find a new home rather easily (if he leaves EXC). I'd definitely like to see him fight some of the UFC LWs.
KJ Noons vs. Nate Diaz! I can see that being the next UFN main event (If he leave EXC and go over to the UFC of course)! They use this entire story hype up the fight!

That or they'll just put him on the next TUF!

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KJ still has to finish his contract with EXC so I don't think it was smart move to refuse the fight. The CBS fight card with Kimbo and Gina would have provided him huge exposure and raised his future earning potential if he won. He should have just finished out his contract, become a free agent, then get the big money.

Maybe he wanted to get paid now because he felt losing to Diaz on CBS would have made him look bad and lowered his future value?
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Agree with you, fair play to them for doing it and not taking no bull.

i'm not being a dick JB I respect your perspective imensly...my problem is with taking that point of view as so many have...you are in effect buying XC's bullshit....

Do you guys really think they didnt **** KJ over...there was a thread a while back when this first broke and KJ broke down all he was promised and how XC was marketing Nick over him and he was the champ......


they promote where the money is and we all know this from kimbo now fighting Ken vs. Brett rogers...more money with Kens name and no real good chance of a loss for Kimbo.....hell they prob brought ken in knowing they would use him for the promo of Kimbo(welcome to XC bullshit world)


I am one of the people that feel they should have offered him another fight and worked out a better contract then he fights Nick and they hype the hell out of it...but what kind of organization are you when you strip your beltholder cuz he has a beef with his contract, especially when you really have a weak division already and KJ does have a legit point... plus if they were in the right they would have come out with some kind of statement about his comments instead of pretending they never were said....
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I would pay to see Alvarez vs Diaz.
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i'm not being a dick JB I respect your perspective imensly...my problem is with taking that point of view as so many have...you are in effect buying XC's bullshit....

Do you guys really think they didnt **** KJ over...there was a thread a while back when this first broke and KJ broke down all he was promised and how XC was marketing Nick over him and he was the champ......


they promote where the money is and we all know this from kimbo now fighting Ken vs. Brett rogers...more money with Kens name and no real good chance of a loss for Kimbo.....hell they prob brought ken in knowing they would use him for the promo of Kimbo(welcome to XC bullshit world)


I am one of the people that feel they should have offered him another fight and worked out a better contract then he fights Nick and they hype the hell out of it...but what kind of organization are you when you strip your beltholder cuz he has a beef with his contract, especially when you really have a weak division already and KJ does have a legit point... plus if they were in the right they would have come out with some kind of statement about his comments instead of pretending they never were said....
your right on the dot man. Elite XC in general isnt handeling things professionally and are making a lot of bad decisions. Do you know that a lot of people here in miami dont even know kimbo is fighting ken shamrock?! No one freaking knows. They are making a lot of poor business decisions.

also to all of those with hate towards noons

I found out today why he didnt take the main event fight with nick diaz. Elite XC offered him the main event with nick diaz only if he extended his current contract. They promised to market him better and they would throw him on the main event.

Shit after I found this out Im sorry but I am totally behind KJ noons on this one. Before I thought it was both of their faults but now its clear that they are dicking noons around. He is a younger guy with not that many fights under his belt and they are trying to take advantage of him.

If I were KJ I would try to get out of my elite xc contract as soon as possible ant try to sighn with some one else while Im marketable. He is dissapointed with matketing and money so the offer elite xc gives him is more fights for the same pay and more promises and they havent kept their past ones.

Elite XC's management of fighters is riddiculous. From Kimbo to noons and I have heard rumours about other fighters that want to get out of their pro elite contracts.

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also to all of those with hate towards noons

I found out today why he didnt take the main event fight with nick diaz. Elite XC offered him the main event with nick diaz only if he extended his current contract. They promised to market him better and they would throw him on the main event.

Shit after I found this out Im sorry but I am totally behind KJ noons on this one. Before I thought it was both of their faults but now its clear that they are dicking noons around. He is a younger guy with not that many fights under his belt and they are trying to take advantage of him.
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