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I am totally on KJ Noon's side for this. I really hope UFC pick him up when he's free, he deserters better than fighting for an organization that wants him to loose to who they think is a bigger star.

I agree with KJ for turning down the fight with Diaz. Its about fairness. Bottom line Diaz did NOT deserve a title shot. He lost to KJ and won one fight since, WHICH HE CAME IN 9LBS OVER. There needs to be a penalty for this, giving him a title shot after that just proves how your organization is BS and how thin your division is. In the UFC it is very rare that a fighter gets a title shot after one win since his loss. Only guys like BJ Penn, GSP, Hughes get that kind of treatment. I mean Arlovski lost his title shot for a slow fight.

I really feel for KJ and I really hope Diaz never wins that title.

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Can you provide a link?

Here boys read KJ's whole breakdown of the situation...its pretty ****ed up...... http://www.mmaforum.com/elitexc-stri...j-cryfest.html
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Here boys read KJ's whole breakdown of the situation...its pretty ****ed up...... http://www.mmaforum.com/elitexc-stri...j-cryfest.html
Thanks for the link!

I would rep you, but need to spread more love!

LOL drama.

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Good move by EliteXC, does anybody agree that Mark Dion is the worst manager out there?
First he screws Vera, now Noons. What's with this guy?
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I am totally on KJ Noon's side for this. I really hope UFC pick him up when he's free, he deserters better than fighting for an organization that wants him to loose to who they think is a bigger star.

I agree with KJ for turning down the fight with Diaz. Its about fairness. Bottom line Diaz did NOT deserve a title shot. He lost to KJ and won one fight since, WHICH HE CAME IN 9LBS OVER.
Nick was won 3 fights in EXC and Dream since his loss to KJ. Also, KJ turned turned the fight down because of money reasons, not because Diaz did not deserve the fight. Considering how their first fight was decided by a cut, we definitely need to see these two fight again.
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Who else does Elite XC have for him to fight guys? They have 2 fighters Diaz and Alvarez. He wont fight Diaz and Eddie is getting married.

Fabricio Camones and Conner "The Hurricane" Huen are both good EliteXC Lightweights.

Camones just choked out Sammy Morgan 20 seconds into round one on a ShowXC card last month.


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Camoes is good but not a title contender yet and Heun looked good against Marlon but he is 1-0 and hasn't fought on Elite XC show yet just Sho XC.
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Camoes is good but not a title contender yet and Heun looked good against Marlon but he is 1-0 and hasn't fought on Elite XC show yet just Sho XC.
That's not how ShoXC and EliteXC work. Here is the breakdown.

All ShowXC does is use EliteXC fighters and put them on a Showtime card. The card ShoXC brought to you by EliteXC and Showtime.

And by the way. The same thing you said about Huen is true for Eddie Alvarez also. Alvarez only has one fight on a ShowXC card for EliteXC but you consider him a contender. Why than not Huen?


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Nick was won 3 fights in EXC and Dream since his loss to KJ. Also, KJ turned turned the fight down because of money reasons, not because Diaz did not deserve the fight. Considering how their first fight was decided by a cut, we definitely need to see these two fight again.
Noons also did say this recently:

A quote from KJ from another MMA website on this issue :


“I always wanted to fight Nick Diaz,” Noons had said. “It’s the most marketable fight for me, the best style fight for me. I think the fans want to see it. But you have to pay for something you want to see. … It is about the money and how (EliteXC was) paying somebody I already beat three times more.”

Money this or diaz not a top contender that. LOL.

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That's not how ShoXC and EliteXC work. Here is the breakdown.

All ShowXC does is use EliteXC fighters and put them on a Showtime card. The card ShoXC brought to you by EliteXC and Showtime.

And by the way. The same thing you said about Huen is true for Eddie Alvarez also. Alvarez only has one fight on a ShowXC card for EliteXC but you consider him a contender. Why than not Huen?
I know that but it's about marketablitly. The neither guy has been on the main card of any major MMA event. the biggest show for either of these guys was an IFL and Sho XC.

Sho XC is used as a place to show off younger fighters that is used to jump guys to Elite XC fights not title fights.

And yes Eddie also only has one fight under the Elite XC banner and it was also on Sho XC however Eddie Alvarez is a top 10 LW and since he fought on Sho XC has beaten 3 very good LW's. Heun hasn't fought since he beat Marlon who is a ok fighter but not that good.

Heun and Fabricio aren't title contenders right now maybe put then on a Elite XC card against a proven LW and they can be.
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