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post #51 of 62 (permalink) Old 09-22-2008, 02:38 AM
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I think they did the right thing. When have you ever heard of a UFC champion turning down a fight. When you're under contract, you have to fulfill your contract. I understand the argument that Elite XC hasn't lived up to their end of the bargain, but a refusal to fight doesn't help your situation. Also Noons needs to understand that he is extremely far from having a promising boxing career. He's never beaten a good fighter. He's a good 6-7 fights that would have to be progressive better opponents before he would even be considered for an under card fight on ESPN. I'm sure that he thinks he should be getting the kind of money a 7-1 (5) mma fighter gets. Unfortunately in boxing those kind of guys get a couple hundred bucks to fight. I think Noons needs to realize he's not a mma star either. He's not a top 10 fighter. I just hope that we get to see Diaz vs Alvarez.
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I think they did the right thing. When have you ever heard of a UFC champion turning down a fight. When you're under contract, you have to fulfill your contract. I understand the argument that Elite XC hasn't lived up to their end of the bargain, but a refusal to fight doesn't help your situation. Also Noons needs to understand that he is extremely far from having a promising boxing career. He's never beaten a good fighter. He's a good 6-7 fights that would have to be progressive better opponents before he would even be considered for an under card fight on ESPN. I'm sure that he thinks he should be getting the kind of money a 7-1 (5) mma fighter gets. Unfortunately in boxing those kind of guys get a couple hundred bucks to fight. I think Noons needs to realize he's not a mma star either. He's not a top 10 fighter. I just hope that we get to see Diaz vs Alvarez.



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You could also point out Tito ducked Chuck for quite a while by refusing to fight him till he finally gave in to the pressure.




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post #54 of 62 (permalink) Old 09-22-2008, 11:41 AM
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There is a difference though. Randy didn't simply turn down a fight with Big Nog. He quit the UFC. Noons was trying to turn down a fight AND still hold onto the belt.

I get why you posted the pick, but it isn't a correct analogy.


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Look out how well that turned out. Actually he did not turn down a fight. The UFC had not told him who they wanted him to fight when he first started seeking out fedor.
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Yeah, rocky is right. It's not that Randy turned down a fight, it's that Randy tried to retire when he realized the UFC could not even get Fedor under contract. Considerably smarter than KJ's choice to simply not answer the phone until they put someone other than Diaz in front of him.

And why didn't Dana strip Randy's title? legal reasons aside, he is worth about a billion times what KJ is. Hell, KJ has only beaten two tough guys in his whole career and he was refusing a rematch with one of them.

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post #57 of 62 (permalink) Old 09-22-2008, 02:33 PM
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...Shogun...great point. I respect K.J's game but Diaz deserves another shot based on the fact that he lost via doctor stoppage. Diaz can't help that he has a lot of scar tissue on his face. Nick is a seasoned, respected MMA warrior that has no quit in him. Hey...Riddick Bowe dropped his HW belt right in the trash can when he found out that Lennox Lewis was his next opponent. If you are the champ you have to have the balls to defend it. If not, then forfit the title. Dumb move on K.J's part.
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Noons and Dion... man, not exactly a couple of rocket scientists.

KJ has no future in the sport now. he's no couture, not even a tito. Who would not only pick him up, but give him a title shot knowing that he might pull this again? No one needs that sort of pain in the ass, he's simply shot himself in his stupid foot.

as for stripping him... good riddance. Now the strap can go back up for contention.


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