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post #51 of 55 (permalink) Old 10-05-2008, 07:56 PM
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Well I don't know why you have so muh confidence in him he has had trouble in 2 of his last 4 fights.

Also Diego could be very tough for Alves. The guy is one of the best ground fighters at 170.
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post #52 of 55 (permalink) Old 10-05-2008, 11:10 PM
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thiago has fought at ww many times, he misses weight b/c of a spranged ankle and all of a sudden he's not a ww anymore?

c'mon now, that's being a lil ridiculous....the last 10 days before the fight is very important for a fighter coming down from such a high weight....and if you are completely sidelined from training (like he said he was), it's going to mess up things
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post #53 of 55 (permalink) Old 10-06-2008, 12:23 AM
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I think if Shields wants to be considered a top five welter weight he needs to beat a top 5 welter weight. It's a weird concept, I know.
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post #54 of 55 (permalink) Old 10-06-2008, 01:39 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by bbjd7 View Post
But since I have always thought rankings are done on performance not assumed skill I think Shields be performance is top 5 guranteed. And I have him performance wise at 2 or 3.
Thought I covered that when I said this.

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I'm not saying he isn't a top 10 WW but based on skill he is at the lower end of the top 10. But based soley on record then he is near the top.
And again Shields being ranked in the top three because of his record is a little spotty since he doesn't have to fight top 10 guys. Where as the UFC WW's for the most part are fighting guys that are. So they are going to have losses that Shields won't because of the difference in competition. So pretty much by default Shields gets ranked higher. How many fights against guys who were in the top 10 when he fought them does he have?

To put it another way look at the SEC and Big 12, they beat each other during the season so they drop each other in the rankings where as a team from say the Big 10, ACC, or Big East beat the easier competition in their conference and move up the rankings. They don't really move up because they are better but because the SEC and Big 12 teams that are better then them are having to play each other.
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I agree MLS I wasn't trying to disagree with you with that comment.

And yea I would agree with that comment.
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