No, but your apparently so blinded by irritation that you don't even read my points.
lol, it seems with the dialect being used you, not me is the one that is irritated.
You explain in detail that the major difference between Shields and the Diaz bros is that the Diaz clan likes to engage. In my FIRST explanation I conceded that Shields didn't want to get hit. So obviously he didn't push the pace.
You said that Shields and the Diaz brothers fight the same, this is not true which is what I said.
But like it or not, the Diaz bros do use a slow, steady pace in their fights and impose that on their opponents.
Ever wonder why people say that both Diaz brothers have great conditioning? It's because they are constantly pushing the pace. They do set a steady pace but not a slow pace. Show me a Diaz fight that has a slow pace please.
I explicitly say that I am not very familiar with Daley, and you feel compelled tosay "That is obvious". Well, I guess it is obvious. It's really obvious after I said it.
So I agree and I'm wrong?
Then you say that the only time Daley tried to escape was when Shields went for an armbar. That was my point. Whenever Shields went for something he risked Daley escaping.
No, Daley only go out of the mount when Shields went for the armbar because the cage prevented the armbar. There was no real risk of Daley escaping because Daley wasn't putting up much of a defense on the ground.
Then you think I accuse you of considering Shields a top 5... Go back and look at my post: I asked you if you really can't see how SOMEONE might see Shields as a top 5. I think he has accomplished enough to lead some to believe he COULD be top 5 (I haven't claimed him as such BTW)
Actually you asked me, "You have no idea how anyone could think of him as a top fighter? Really?" Which is why I said, "when did I say he wasn't a top fighter?" which implies that I can see where some people would consider him a top fighter.
And I'm not and haven't said that me being a "fight fan" has anything to do with it being a good fight. All that I meant is that I am an educated fan, and TO ME it was a good fight.
Why did you feel that you must include "fight fan" in there then? Sounds like what people say about Machida and only real fans enjoy him.
The reason I assume your irritated is because you're ignoring parts of what I'm posting and you seem to be addressing me like I'm some sort of nut-hugger trying to save my boy's rep, which is not the case.
Not ignoring as I have addressed every point you have tried to make.
I'm only expressing my opinions. I thought it was a good fight, and I think the general consensus on this thread is unfairly bashing a guy that fought well IN MY OPINION.
Good for you but some of your "facts" i.e. diaz brothers have a slow pace is wrong.