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NikosCC 11-28-2008 10:35 AM

Rickson Gracie vs Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
 
Who has the better BJJ out of these two fighters..

I know Rickson has been quoted saying he is 100% sure he can beat Fedor and Rickson made the same statement about Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira which prompted Wanderlei Silva to say that Rickson is "living in a fantasy world.

Discuss.

toymafia 11-28-2008 11:00 AM

if they just had a grappling match then id say rickson, due to having a life spent on bjj.

but if it were a mma match then nog for sure, being more experienced having a weight advantage, and just over all being better at the fighting aspect of the sport.

but i thinking ive only ever since rickson fight once, so i cant say to much about his fighting abilty.

but how knows what the myth of mma (rickson) could do.

Ape City 11-28-2008 12:12 PM

I would assume, as the above poster does, that in a pure BJJ match Rickson would come out on top. In an MMA match, Nog would wipe the floor with him.

Tilen 11-28-2008 02:24 PM

Rickson is living in a fantasy world

Robb2140 11-28-2008 02:44 PM

Rickson has never fought 1 single quality opponent in MMA, not 1!! He handpicked Japanese cans to display his BJJ to the world.

Big Nog on the other hand has beaten top level opponents. Nog would easily beat Rickson.

JT42 11-28-2008 03:00 PM

Gimme a break. Rodrigo would demolish him

GKY 11-28-2008 03:09 PM

In MMA, Nog would kill him, hell he probably has better MMA BJJ then Rickson (Ricksons MMA bjj is nothing special).

In pure BJJ however, I recently got to see Rickson really rolling, and truth be told in his prime he was probably better then Garcia. He would definitely sub Nog.

Damone 11-28-2008 05:25 PM

Nogueira would smash Rickson in an MMA fight. Nog's MMA BJJ is loads better.

Plus, I can't stand Rickson Gracie and would only vote for him if this were a "Who's the least deserving legend" poll.

He is definitely living in a fantasy world, and it's 1995 in that world.

Robb2140 11-28-2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damone (Post 721553)
Nogueira would smash Rickson in an MMA fight. Nog's MMA BJJ is loads better.

Plus, I can't stand Rickson Gracie and would only vote for him if this were a "Who's the least deserving legend" poll.

He is definitely living in a fantasy world, and it's 1995 in that world.

Rickson could have fought guys like Kerr, Coleman, Bas, Frye and Vovy but instead he fought Takada twice and 8 or 9 other bums who were brought in to lose. Rickson's "Legend" is no better than Hulk Hogan's IMO.

cezwan 11-28-2008 08:33 PM

when i first got into mma, i was full into the Rickson hype. hearing the other gracies brag about him being the best in the family and knowing that royce was a machine back then made me think "Holy shit! this guy must be a freakin weapon!"..

now however, i think its just a myth.. if rickson really was that good, he would prove it, not dodge everyone that challenges him.

Nog would beat him.. it maybe close in a BJJ match but thats it.


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