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Old 12-04-2008, 11:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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to be clear..i think it acultural thing..probablly has to do with the places fighters come from < almost nobody from a big city..did u notice that?..many from farms..>..tradition...what is considers 'cool"...and some more factors like that..i dont any time to elaborate right now.

anyway..if i underestimate the sensitivity of the subject a mod can just delete it..i dont see how racism has anything to do with it...but maybe some can get hurt by it and that wasnt my intention..
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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to be clear..i think it acultural thing..probablly has to do with the places fighters come from < almost nobody from a big city..did u notice that?..many from farms..>..tradition...what is considers 'cool"...and some more factors like that..i dont any time to elaborate right now.

anyway..if i underestimate the sensitivity of the subject a mod can just delete it..i dont see how racism has anything to do with it...but maybe some can get hurt by it and that wasnt my intention..
To say it's a cultural thing is getting close to racism and the farms thing is totally off-base. Then the "cool" factor is even worse- if I follow what you are implying.

This might be a decent discussion minus the gross stereo-types.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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to be clear..i think it acultural thing..probablly has to do with the places fighters come from < almost nobody from a big city..did u notice that?..many from farms..>..tradition...what is considers 'cool"...and some more factors like that..i dont any time to elaborate right now.
I know what you mean and I know you were deff not trying to be racist (no sarcasm), but it still comes off that way. But I mean people like Phillipe Nover who are from Brooklyn completely wreck that point. It really depends on the person, not where they were raised.

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Correct, but doesn't always have to be a negative though. Just a stereotype sort of thing. It wasn't like he was promoting them as inferior or superior. Which would be hate speech. And that would be definition #2,3,4, & 5 of racism which is frowned upon.
I know, I know, but a stereotype is still a stereotype even if it is positive. I may or may not agree with this () but it is still not true for every person in that ethnic group to be that way is still a silly thing to say.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:43 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Serra and his whole team are from NY (13 million)...Guillard is from New Orleans 500K)...Houston Alexander is from St. Louis...Aurelio is from Fortuleza (3.4 million)...Bisping from Cyprus (800K)...A. Silva from Curitiba (1.8 million)...Shane Carwin from Denver (2.4 million)...Couture from Seattle (20 miles north actually but close enough) (3.4 million)...Rashad Evans from Detroit (4.4 million).

I could go on, but it really is a waste of time. Good fighters come from all over.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:44 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It seems like most combat sports that go into mma are not black dominated either (except boxing). BJJ is not a sport that I have noticed a lot of blacks doing and wrestling is white dominated even though there are definately some great black wrestlers out there. Judo, muay thai, kickboxing just seem to be more white or non-black sports in general which leads to mma being the same. There are def. some great black participants in every combat sport but they seem to be more in the minority. It has nothing to do with them being unable to or anything, trust me I train with some bad ass black dudes, just watch out for Neal "The Rhino" Craft. Anyway I think its just combat sports in general are not as black dominated as like football, basketball, etc...
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I agree--- you do not see any Mexican MMA fighters either (FROM MEXICO not from Mexican descendants) Puerto Rico is RENOWNED for there great boxers yet they do not have any MMA fighters either--- actually now that I come to think of it except from Brazil there are no Central or South American MMA fighters or fighters from the Caribbean either---

Ricco Rodriguez is an American MMA of Puerto Rican and Mexican descent
Roger Huerta is from Austin Texas of Mexican decent.
Tito Ortiz is from Huntington Beach California and of Mexican decent.
Diego Sanchez is a Mexican American from Albuquerque New Mexico

See what I mean?
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It seems like most combat sports that go into mma are not black dominated either (except boxing). BJJ is not a sport that I have noticed a lot of blacks doing and wrestling is white dominated even though there are definately some great black wrestlers out there. Judo, muay thai, kickboxing just seem to be more white or non-black sports in general which leads to mma being the same. There are def. some great black participants in every combat sport but they seem to be more in the minority. It has nothing to do with them being unable to or anything, trust me I train with some bad ass black dudes, just watch out for Neal "The Rhino" Craft. Anyway I think its just combat sports in general are not as black dominated as like football, basketball, etc...
Yeah I think his OP was more of why is this the case? sort of thing
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:54 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Well heres another theory. Combat sports and mma in general are heavily technique based sports and although pure athleticism is very useful its all about technique so it depends entirely on an individual's aptitude for fighting and dedication to pick it up the skills needed for success. So blacks being "better athletes" may not be quite as valid a point in a technique based sport as more of a speed/power based sport as like football is IMO.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:59 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I've just never met a black person that was good at BJJ, of course there are exceptions but they seem like they just want to hit someone, the same could be said about some of the rednecks that come in to our gym.
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:00 AM   #20 (permalink)
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sorry but you're being ridiculuos..what is racist about it?
there are many scientific studies that show that blacks are better athletes.<and u can just look at any roster in the sports i mentioned>..

and i dont think training cost that much either.
Nothing is racist about it, people have had the shit beat into their brains that anytime a white male asks about something to do with blacks that it's automatically racist. Common kneejerk reaction, kind of pathetic IMO.
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