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post #1 of 85 (permalink) Old 12-04-2008, 11:06 PM Thread Starter
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why aren't there more top black MMA fighters?

i was wondering about this and would like to hear what u think.

the way i see it - blacks are dominating many sports that requires great athletiscism such as : basketball,football, athletics and good old boxing.blacks are a bit better genetically suited to excel in those fields.

<of course that doesn't mean there cant be great champions from other races in those fields..it just means that blacks are likely to do better than their pure percentage in the general population>.

to my point - the only top MMA black fighters i can think of are Rashad Evans..Rampage Jackson and of course Anderson silve.<whice is brazilian..so it might be abit diffrent culturally>.

im probablly forgeting someone <and im sure u will soon remind me > but still - i would expect to see much more than those 3 or 4 or 5 - due to the reasons i talked about before.

why do u think blacks aren't dominating in MMA as much as they are in other sports?


<bonus question - why are brazilians doing so great in MMA ? >

i do have a little theory but i would to hear what u think..

p.s- i know it might be abit of asensitive subject but i think it could be an intresting debate and we are all mature enought to keep it classy
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The racism in this post is impressive, but I know you didn't mean it. One could argue that some black people don't have the economic means to train in a real gym, which could be said for any other race, but to be honest, if you're good enough, I don't know why a gym wouldn't except you. There are so many other factors than race, that in the end, I don't really think it makes a difference.



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Melvin Guillard was considered, but certainly not top tier. He is in the UFC though and that means something.

But mostly because training for MMA is expensive most likely. Lots of african american families come from poverty. MIght also have to do with being given a chance or being marketed or represented by the right people. Also, lots of kids view training in fighting as being a p*ssy. Not sure how blacks feel about that, but I would assume that is a non-race specific thought for younger kids and teenagers.

Any theory on why there aren't more involved at the top level may be construed as racist, but I certainly hope that isn't the case here. I just threw my opinion out there on it. Hoep it wasn't offensive, certainly not intended to be.

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Tread carefully in this thread- very carefully.

Why are Brazilians so good at soccer...hmmm?

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The racism in this post is impressive, but I know you didn't mean it. One could argue that some black people don't have the economic means to train in a real gym, which could be said for any other race, but to be honest, if you're good enough, I don't know why a gym wouldn't except you. There are so many other factors than race, that in the end, I don't really think it makes a difference.


sorry but you're being ridiculuos..what is racist about it?
there are many scientific studies that show that blacks are better athletes.<and u can just look at any roster in the sports i mentioned>..

and i dont think training cost that much either.
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and i dont think training cost that much either.
Wow..you must have never trained. And you try adding $400/month at the novice stage to an already tapped budget.

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I would have to say Brazilians are doing so well because it was really the birthplace of MMA so they kind of started before everyone and have stayed slightly ahead

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what is racist about it?
there are many scientific studies that show that blacks are better athletes
Putting any race before another because they're that race is racist. (WHOA.)



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Putting any race before another because they're that race is racist. (WHOA.)
Correct, but doesn't always have to be a negative though. Just a stereotype sort of thing. It wasn't like he was promoting them as inferior or superior. Which would be hate speech. And that would be definition #2,3,4, & 5 of racism which is frowned upon.

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sorry but you're being ridiculuos..what is racist about it?
there are many scientific studies that show that blacks are better athletes.<and u can just look at any roster in the sports i mentioned>..

and i dont think training cost that much either.
training cost shit load of money
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