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Old 04-04-2009, 07:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It would not be the first substance that has been shown to reduce probability of a certain type of cancer.
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I love this thread, I smoke cigarettes and used to smoke weed, the only diffrence between the two is every single person who smokes cigarettes acknowledges its bad for them and most know they should quit, the pot head will argue he isnt really addicited (they are) and that its "only weed" and its not bad for them to somehow justify it, but the truth is that it is detrimental to there heath, although admittedly I think a water bong is probably considerably heathier than a joint inhalation of smoke is never gonna be heathy I dont care what your burning.
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I agree, no smoke inhalation is harmless. But its also true that a ton of commercial ingredients are added to cigs that usually aren't added to weed. and additionally i'd say there are potential medical applications for THC (they prescribe marinol and weed after all) that really just dont exist for nicotine/cigs. In fact nicotine's primary use outside of tobacco is as a pest control spray.
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It would not be the first substance that has been shown to reduce probability of a certain type of cancer.
Yeah, you're right. I editted that out of my post as soon as i read it myself, because i realised it was wrong.


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I love this thread, I smoke cigarettes and used to smoke weed, the only diffrence between the two is every single person who smokes cigarettes acknowledges its bad for them and most know they should quit, the pot head will argue he isnt really addicited (they are) and that its "only weed" and its not bad for them to somehow justify it, but the truth is that it is detrimental to there heath, although admittedly I think a water bong is probably considerably heathier than a joint inhalation of smoke is never gonna be heathy I dont care what your burning.
As with so many other posts in this thread, you too are on the ball. on all of your points.


it's actually great to see threads and replies like this, because it shows that so many MMA fans are not the bloodthirsty redneck fools who we are so often portrayed as, but actually (from what i can see on mmaforum) pretty high on the bell curve when it comes to topics outside of MMA too.

makes me a little happier inside, really.
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I agree, no smoke inhalation is harmless. But its also true that a ton of commercial ingredients are added to cigs that usually aren't added to weed. and additionally i'd say there are potential medical applications for THC (they prescribe marinol and weed after all) that really just dont exist for nicotine/cigs. In fact nicotine's primary use outside of tobacco is as a pest control spray.
yes, cigs have a tonne of commerically added chemicals that are added to preserve the tobacco, and to control the burn rate of the cigarettes, as well as many other things. so you are definitely on point there.

as for theraputic uses of nicotine, you are slightly off. because of nicotine's properties as a cognitive stimulant, it does actually have uses in older patients with deteriorating cognitive ability. these arent peer reviewed studies, but a quick public google search gave me this:
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=39963

I wont go into it more, but yeah. just remember; there are two sides to almost *every* coin.
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I love this thread, I smoke cigarettes and used to smoke weed, the only diffrence between the two is every single person who smokes cigarettes acknowledges its bad for them and most know they should quit, the pot head will argue he isnt really addicited (they are) and that its "only weed" and its not bad for them to somehow justify it, but the truth is that it is detrimental to there heath, although admittedly I think a water bong is probably considerably heathier than a joint inhalation of smoke is never gonna be heathy I dont care what your burning.
If you smoke cigs than I can imagine your cardio must suck and if your cardio sucks you cant fight for shit (FACT) So I guess hard core training is out for you toxic
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wow. I like everyone here, but there are some dummies comparing tobacco to cannabis. Sorry, I smoke from a vaporizor always, and I can still hold my breath for 80 seconds when im diving. Cavemen smoke joints, people who are realistic about the possible consequences know how to level things out, and how to get the THC into your system without inhaling tar and paper. Once I got older I decided to not smoke it ever unfiltered, and the furthest I will ever go is using my bong with ice in it (there goes the hot air theory). I have no problems with cardio at all in anything I do. the only thing that suffers is short term memory, for instance I'll pour a glass of milk, and walk away and not remember for 15 mins, but I hardly think its a big deal, since I remember. ANYWAY, thats an unnecessary run down of myself, Nick Diaz is like the thousands of idiot stoners I've had to deal with, Im sure in his mind he feels like he has a great point, but I can't believe at his age in this world he hasn't matured enough to shut up.
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All this really explains in why Nick Diaz needs about 28 more years of education.
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