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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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04-18-2009, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HexRei
Mayhem himself said it was fake on the UG!!!!!
(for the slow, his post was sarcastic. The show is not scripted and the fights are real.
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He was only being sarcastic about caring that people realised it was fake.
He basically said the show is fake, but he doesn't give a crap because it is selling.
Best not to end a post with "and for the slow..." unless you are sure of what you are saying.
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04-18-2009, 11:32 PM
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#22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by HexRei
Mayhem himself said it was fake on the UG!!!!!
(for the slow, his post was sarcastic. The show is not scripted and the fights are real.
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I want to believe that. I really do. But it's MTV.
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04-19-2009, 12:42 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by infamous2117
MTV's "Bully Beatdown" starring Jason "Mayhem" Miller has been a surprise smash hit, and a serious guilty pleasure among serious MMA fans over the last few weeks. As if the poorly-crafted canned lines (seemingly read right off a cue card) weren't obvious enough, MMA TKO is now reporting that MTV hired professional stuntmen to pose as the "bullies" on the show, and in most cases, the "bullies" had never met their "victims" prior to the show:
I spoke with a friend that helped with the production of the show and was told that most of the bully/victim combo had never even met prior to the taping of each episode
Take bully Jon from the last episode with Jake Shields. Last year he was on the Fox TV show Battle of the Bods where Jonathan proclaimed to be a professional stuntman as he judged the bodies of young women.
Even though Bully Beatdown is filled with actors the fights are mostly real. The stuntmen do try to fight back against the Pro MMA fighters but their payday comes not from the 10,000 prize money offered up but from the money guaranteed on the contract they signed going into the fight.
Update: I have been asked for proof that any of these guys are actors. Well here you go:
Ryan Adam Kessman : one of the fighters IMDb Resume. Lists his background Performance Skills: Martial Arts, Stunts. He was even on My name is Earl.
This is an interesting revelation, but it's certainly not the most surprising or earth-shattering bit of news, especially given the scripted nature of many of MTV's "reality" shows such as "The Hills" and various dating shows. Whether or not these guys really are bullies is pretty inconsequential, as they're still apparently actually fighting the MMA fighters. However, bringing in professional stuntmen certainly gives the "bullies" more of an advantage in the fights, and if MTV had used average joes, the beatdowns would probably be much more severe.
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His helmet was stifling, it narrowed his vision. And he must see far. His shield was heavy. It threw him off balance. And his target is far away.
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04-19-2009, 09:36 PM
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Yeah, if I were a small white woman, I know I'd definitely call Jason Miller to help me instead of the police if a big ass black guy was bothering me.
Love how they showed off his music for a bit while they wre in the studio.
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08-23-2009, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CornbreadBB
http://www.realitywanted.com/call/44...n-casting-call
Seems pretty real to me, eh? I mean I guess if the bully can apply, that may be fabricated. Damnit Xer, why did you have to ruin this for me?! 1, I didn't know MTV had any fake reality shows and 2, the only thing I have left to watch that definitely isn't fake is pro-wrestling. 
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Originally Posted by Xerxes
IMO pro-wrestling is fake too, but I'm not sure..
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It is fake, the most real i "fights" are the one of the UFC...
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Originally Posted by ZeroPRIDE
^^lol yea i thought that was suspect but hey all MTV shows are fake. Just turn off your brain and be entertained
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Yea 99% of "reality" shows on tv are fake so just try to think its real
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Originally Posted by Finnsidious
I thought the show was a neat idea, but I was pretty sure it was going to be scripted, and it obviously is.
If it were real, the 'bullies' would have to be completely retarded. You know you wouldn't get anywhere near 10,000 dollars, you'd be lucky to get 1 or 2 thousand, maybe zero, and that for the privilege of getting publicly humiliated and beaten for 6 minutes. You'd have a pretty hard time finding people to sign up for that if it were real.
Nice idea, but obviously fake.
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Yea, i mean 10k its not worth being humiliated on national/international tv...
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Originally Posted by SuicideJohnson
this is like when you watch amateur porn and you want to believe it is at least somewhat real, and then you recognize the girl from 100 other porns  I just wanted to suspend my disbelief
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08-24-2009, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CornbreadBB
Yeah, if I were a small white woman, I know I'd definitely call Jason Miller to help me instead of the police if a big ass black guy was bothering me.
Love how they showed off his music for a bit while they wre in the studio.
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So, you're not a small white woman?
I always thought it an oddity that none of these "victims" resorted to restraining orders. I am disappointed.
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08-24-2009, 07:49 AM
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1.) Bully Beatdown
2.) Santa Claus
3.) Tooth Fairy
4.) Two women in the same room sitting quietly
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08-24-2009, 09:13 AM
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The Truth
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Originally Posted by CornbreadBB
Yeah, when's BJ Penn going to be on the show?
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Didn't you see BJ vs GSP II? 
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08-24-2009, 02:53 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by MooJuice
they did this...i forget what it was called (well actually i thought it was called joes versus pros MMA) and yeah they had mma fighters go in against army trainers and other joe-type people who thought they were awesome fighters. i forget who the mma guy was, but it was def one of the more famous guys. as i recall there was no striking; the mma guy just submitted them over and over again. each joe spent 3 minutes in the ring im pretty sure, and usually got submitted about 4 - 8 times in that 3 minutes
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It was Proes Vs. Joes where only one of the joes was a hand to hand combat instructor in the Army. Randy Couture was the Pro and he quickly twisted and choked all of their collective joints, pressure points and personal pride 3-4 times each.
There was another episode where joes went against Kurt Angle to try to defend his takedowns, another episode where they had to go one round with Roy Jones Jr., and an episode where they went one round in KICKBOXING with Bob Sapp. That was the last time that the show was cool because last season they got rid of everything that made the show cool and completely changed the format. The biggest offense was removing the combat sports from Pros Vs Joes.
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08-24-2009, 10:37 PM
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Welterweight
Join Date: Apr 2007
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anybody who ever thought it was real needs to get out more. Five minutes of one episode and I turned that bullshit off.
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