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Old 11-21-2006, 12:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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yup, its part of the sport plain ans simple, matt hughes was great at it, tito and also mark kerr.

i wanted to GnP someone last night at the gym but it was straight grappling darn!
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Old 11-24-2006, 10:53 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Im really starting to get irritated when people say all fighters do is lay on people or call it "lay n gay" Some fighters do Lnp but saying people like Matt Hughes or Tito Ortiz does it is ridiculous. They are great ground and pound fighters. I personally would rather watch a boring fight on the ground than a boring fight standing. Even if you dont like gnp you cant say it is cheap or stupid. It is just as big a part of MMA as striking or BJJ.
Excellent post, I totally agree with you. If people donít like watching GnP they need to stick to Kick boxing and Abu Dhabi. I love every part of MMA, striking, knees, ground and pound, submissions, itís that you get to combine all of these things that make it the best sport on earth.
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Old 11-25-2006, 04:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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This is a great topic. People should accept MMA for what it is. You need to do what ever you have to to win. If you don't like it, don't watch.
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Old 11-26-2006, 12:12 AM   #14 (permalink)
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GnP is apart of MMA and has always been apart of it. MMA is always evolving and as hard as fighters try to be well rounded, if you don't have GnP skills or grappling skills it will be hard for you do get anywhere in MMA. This is probably an exception for Chuck Liddell. There is nothing wrong with Lay n Pray, it's just another strategy in MMA that fighters to need adapt to or beat it.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:16 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Lay and gay is someone you stays on the top trying to look busy so the ref doesn't stand it up... if funny because people seem to think that Tito has great cardio, but if you watch the Forrest fight Tito did not win that fight. He was gassin by the second, and if he was to take it down we all would have saw him lay on top of him "to catch his breath" for the whole god damn round.

GnP is someone who usually stops the fight due to punches or elbows, Tito wins the fight by decision!!! thats not pounding, thats why hes gay, and he lays.... HENCE LAY AND GAY!
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Lay and gay is someone you stays on the top trying to look busy so the ref doesn't stand it up... if funny because people seem to think that Tito has great cardio, but if you watch the Forrest fight Tito did not win that fight. He was gassin by the second, and if he was to take it down we all would have saw him lay on top of him "to catch his breath" for the whole god damn round.

GnP is someone who usually stops the fight due to punches or elbows, Tito wins the fight by decision!!! thats not pounding, thats why hes gay, and he lays.... HENCE LAY AND GAY!

His leg was busted up in that fight. And you can clearly see at the end of the fight that tito was the winner coz the ref lifted Titos arm up after Bruce read the judges score card
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:25 PM   #17 (permalink)
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His leg was busted up in that fight. And you can clearly see at the end of the fight that tito was the winner coz the ref lifted Titos arm up after Bruce read the judges score card
But if anyone saw the judges score cards, one was 30 to 27, how the hell did tito win all 3 rounds?!?!?! FORREST OWNED TITO IN THE SECOND!

Tito went in for three take downs, and unsucessfully did nothing! Whlie Forrest beat him up in the stand up.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:30 PM   #18 (permalink)
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But if anyone saw the judges score cards, one was 30 to 27, how the hell did tito win all 3 rounds?!?!?! FORREST OWNED TITO IN THE SECOND!

Tito went in for three take downs, and unsucessfully did nothing! Whlie Forrest beat him up in the stand up.

I dont think it was a 30-27 fight for Tito either but he for sure won the fight imo. The 1st and 3rd round was Tito, the 2nd was a 10-9 for forrest. no matter how one might wanna twist and turn it Tito was the winner. "Very fairly squairely" as GSP once stated
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I dont think it was a 30-27 fight for Tito either but he for sure won the fight imo. The 1st and 3rd round was Tito, the 2nd was a 10-9 for forrest. no matter how one might wanna twist and turn it Tito was the winner. "Very fairly squairely" as GSP once stated
dude i just watched it a few nights ago, its was 30 - 27


and then tell me how he won the 3rd round, tito took him down once, but was getting beaten up from Forrest's gaurd, Forrest was landing elbows, punches, and all that great stuff, then tito ran away from his gaurd and then forrest stood up. that was the only big highlight for tito in that round, which lasted like 25 seconds, then Forrest was kickin his ass in the stand up.

So, theres no way Tito won that fight.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:38 PM   #20 (permalink)
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dude i just watched it a few nights ago, its was 30 - 27

i said i didnt agree with 30-27 for Tito, i knew the scorecard. I would say 29-28 For Tito in that fight. almost gave Tito a 10-8 in the 1st
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