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i think people underestimate nick's intelligence, because he is a poor speaker. but modern psychology recognizes many different types of intelligence, not just one. nick may not be much for lingistic intelligence but his body-kinesthetic intelligence is off the charts.

contrarily, haven't any of you ever met someone who was a smooth speaker but sucked at sciences and maths, or was ridiculously uncoordinated? intelligence covers a wide variety of human functions and you can't just take one facet of their intelligence and call it the entirety.

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i think people underestimate nick's intelligence, because he is a poor speaker. but modern psychology recognizes many different types of intelligence, not just one. nick may not be much for lingistic intelligence but his body-kinesthetic intelligence is off the charts.

contrarily, haven't any of you ever met someone who was a smooth speaker but sucked at sciences and maths, or was ridiculously uncoordinated? intelligence covers a wide variety of human functions and you can't just take one facet of their intelligence and call it the entirety.
We had this discussion before, and I don't mean to open it up. I just want to know what is body-kinetics(Kinestheitic) intelligence?

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people who are good at physical activities, basically. the motor-skills portion of your intelligence. someone whose brain is more fully geared toward grace and physical tasks and they pick them up quicky.

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people who are good at physical activities, basically. the motor-skills portion of your intelligence. someone whose brain is more fully geared toward grace and physical tasks and they pick them up quicky.
A talented athlete?

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yes. some people just have natural aptitude toward grace and physical control of their body, and that all happens in the brain. its why you can take two people with similar builds, strength, etc, but one will pick up a sport or other "hands-on" acitivity faster than the other. it can also apply to other fields like arts, drama, dancing, things that involve working with your body, and could extend past just physical agility to the kind of gameplanning and outthinking of your opponent that happens in MMA.

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yes. some people just have natural aptitude toward grace and physical control of their body, and that all happens in the brain. its why you can take two people with similar builds, strength, etc, but one will pick up a sport or other "hands-on" acitivity faster than the other. it can also apply to other fields like arts, drama, dancing, things that involve working with your body.
But this ability can be hidden with hard work. Rich Franklin works so hard, that we can't actually determine whether he is talented or not. Can this apply to Nick?

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i think nick has a natural aptitude, given that he has been doing it from such a young age and doesn't really seem to work as hard as guys like rich. i mean he smokes like a chimney, lol.

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Umm, reflexes & athletic ability don't equate to intellectual prowess in any quantifiable way whatsoever and thus can not qualify 'intelligence'.

if one is to make an argument that Nick Diaz is more intelligent than his diction demonstrates then that hat should be hung on the right-hemisphere. Jits clearly requires a different thought process than other forms of combat. Things associated with the right-hemisphere like big-picture-thinking, empathy / empathic reaction and creativity are traits which Nick has demonstrated in his jits game.

Diction is not the end-all of intelligence. It may be one indicator but a far superior indication of intelligence is the ability to say something true, or to communicate an idea, simply... in as few words as possible.


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Umm, reflexes & athletic ability don't equate to intellectual prowess in any quantifiable way whatsoever and thus can not qualify 'intelligence'.
Many psychologists disagree with you. Google the term, Gardner and others have endorsed this concept. It's a mental aptitude that simply manifests itself physically.

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if one is to make an argument that Nick Diaz is more intelligent than his diction demonstrates then that hat should be hung on the right-hemisphere. Jits clearly requires a different thought process than other forms of combat. Things associated with the right-hemisphere like big-picture-thinking, empathy / empathic reaction and creativity are traits which Nick has demonstrated in his jits game.
Right/left hemisphere differentiality is wildly overstated in pop psychology. In many people, these lateralizations are not clearly delineated at all and are spread between the two hemispheres.

But I tend to agree that he shows creativity and critical thinking in his fight game, I did say above that it "could extend past just physical agility to the kind of gameplanning and outthinking of your opponent that happens in MMA."

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And what if one can do neither well, but is a great mathemetician? Could it possibly be that there are multiple types of intelligence?

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