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Old 05-11-2009, 05:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Umm, reflexes & athletic ability don't equate to intellectual prowess in any quantifiable way whatsoever and thus can not qualify 'intelligence'.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:36 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Many psychologists disagree with you. Google the term, Gardner and others have endorsed this concept. It's a mental aptitude that simply manifests itself physically.

Right/left hemisphere differentiality is wildly overstated in pop psychology. In many people, these lateralizations are not clearly delineated at all and are spread between the two hemispheres.
Actually... i am familiar with Gardner -- although i don't know who the others you speak of are since in my expiriance his opinions are not the status quo. And it is intellectually dishonest to assign values such as 'pop' to one very widely accepted, be it simplistic, theory of cognitive profiling while exalting Howard Gardner's educationalist concepts of five, six, or seven (how many is he up to now anyways?), minds. His work is interesting... but has yet to be qualified by the majority of his peers. The fact remains that the medical community believes whole heartedly that attributes like reflex are completely unmanaged reaction to stimuli. I don't think anyone with half a brain could believe that the dominance of one hemisphere over the other is some sort of cognitive monopoly for the majority. There is plenty of grey area and assigning names to each aspect of our thought process or to personality traits could go on forever.

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But I tend to agree that he shows creativity and critical thinking in his fight game, I did say above that it "could extend past just physical agility to the kind of gameplanning and outthinking of your opponent that happens in MMA."


And what if one can do neither well, but is a great mathemetician? Could it possibly be that there are multiple types of intelligence?
Of course? I thought we were talking about phonetics, not math. Obviously there are a variety of manifestations of intellegence. Reflex, for example, just doesn't happen to be a contributing factor to any of them. What you describe as his execution of a gameplan is not what Gardner describes as Bodily-kinesthetic intelligence. He talks more about muscle memory, which again... is not a very widely accepted theory.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:40 PM   #23 (permalink)
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we're not just talking about reflex. we're talking about ability to learn and improve complex physical tasks quickly.
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"He just lost again right? See what I mean? You are promoting Rich Franklin and this mother****er, here he is, letting it ride and he's just trying to uphold his image. The guy's a ******* teacher. He's a school teacher - that's what he is. If I was going to fight him I'd be pretty damn confident. I'm going to fight a teacher not a fighter. There are plenty of teachers I wanted to beat up."

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All in relation to Gomi:
"He kinda just put his head down and looped some ******* punch out there that smacked me...I was like what the ****?!?!?!?"

"There he is ....that little ****er."

ďThat little ****er hit me with a Hadukan or something.Ē

"I beat his ass. But you know, that little ****er. Man that ****er is tough. I mean I hit him, but then he comes out with this karate shit and little dude can bang. I mean he ****ed up my eye and shit... That's why I went to the ground and go go'd him. You dont see that shit in MMA. Who in MMA go go's anyone cept me."

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"For the record, right now, I think someone needed to come out and say it: I think smoking pot is good for mixed martial artists. It's a new day and age, this is, uh, the year ... **** year is it? I don't know, because I've been training and smoking pot like I should, instead of paying attention to other bullshit, which I don't do."

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ďFighting in Stockton is going to be great for me. Stockton is a great fight town because if you drive long enough on some of these roads youíll probably see a pretty good street fight.Ē

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I saw these quotes online and the originals actually tracked back to sherdog. lol, I guess they actually get it right overthere sometimes.
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What a perfect scare tactic to keep people away from pot! If this is what it does to someone, then it should be enough evidence to abstain for life, haha.

hillarious..im actually blazing right now....what scchool does he have a degree from?????????
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How the hell do you even get there?
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:54 PM   #26 (permalink)
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we're not just talking about reflex. we're talking about ability to learn and improve complex physical tasks quickly.
like i said... i used reflex as an example. Gardner argues that reflex is infact a form of existential intelligence.

by that logic... breathing and blinking makes one intelligent.
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a far superior indication of intelligence is the ability to say something true, or to communicate an idea, simply... in as few words as possible.
**** off. I win?

Don't babies do this by saying the word "bottle" if they want a drink. How does that apply?
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:09 PM   #28 (permalink)
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haha, yeah guess i should have qualified that comment with 'it's my opinion that'.

Took the first 5 years of me running my company to realize that it's usually the eloquent fast talkers who do fu*k all or don't understand the scope, while those who can state the problem and solution in concise terms do their god damn jobs right
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How the hell do you even get there?
I dont know but that weed had to be super expensive.

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haha, yeah guess i should have qualified that comment with 'it's my opinion that'.

Took the first 5 years of me running my company to realize that it's usually the eloquent fast talkers who do fu*k all or don't understand the scope, while those who can state the problem and solution in concise terms do their god damn jobs right
Givin props for telling it like it is. Ive seen it more than once.
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