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post #21 of 29 (permalink) Old 08-08-2009, 07:07 AM
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wanderlei, anderson silva and chuck liddell are up there.

in my mind no strong ground fighter has a chance in this category, because they can use instant submissions or they're going to get eye gouged or groin smashed. But in my mind BJJ has no business in a street fight.



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wanderlei, anderson silva and chuck liddell are up there.

in my mind no strong ground fighter has a chance in this category, because they can use instant submissions or they're going to get eye gouged or groin smashed. But in my mind BJJ has no business in a street fight.

Your absolutely right about that, if your gonna use BJJ in a street fight youd better look around for some grass to move the fight to. Could you imagine trying to pull guard in a street fight? or even bieng on top? Your knees or back would look like hamburger meat. lol
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Your absolutely right about that, if your gonna use BJJ in a street fight youd better look around for some grass to move the fight to. Could you imagine trying to pull guard in a street fight? or even bieng on top? Your knees or back would look like hamburger meat. lol
Yeah, not to mention the guard, out of which 80% of BJJ submissions are launched, is a ridiculously unrealistic and useless position in a streetfight. I mean seriously, you're lying spread-eagled on your back with your package wide open, and your eyes, hair, and throat, a guy in a street fight isn't gonna be nice and play around trying to pass your guard, he's gonna crush your vitals.

IMO the only part of BJJ that's useful for a street fight is the mount or back control for chokes and punches. The guard might come in handy for women who get attacked by rapists or something whose goal is not to beat the chick but uh .. you know. In that case they could probably sink something in, but not in a regular streetfight.
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I'd say Fedor, but he's too nice to hurt anyone.

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Cung Le is all hype, his only decent win is beating an over the hill Frank Shamrock and he barely did that despite the fact Frank did everything possible by keeping it standing to gift Le the win. Cung Le would get beat by any mid level UFC MW and probably by most WW's (Le should be fighting at WW). Cung Le would get absolutly decimated by somebody like Rich Franklin or Dan Henderson, hell Bisping would own him and dont bother getting me started at how overated he is.
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i think the early shogun has to take the crown of most agressive fighter, wanderleis up there to though
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