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09-03-2009, 01:29 PM
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Gina did have the mount a couple of times, but the way she wasnt even remotely close to being able to hold it is a testament to how much she was giving up in a physical advantage to cyborg. I dont think that she would ever have much of a chance against cyborg just because a the huge strength and size difference.
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09-03-2009, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joshua7789
Gina did have the mount a couple of times, but the way she wasnt even remotely close to being able to hold it is a testament to how much she was giving up in a physical advantage to cyborg. I dont think that she would ever have much of a chance against cyborg just because a the huge strength and size difference.
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I think the fact she wasnt able to hold the mount has more to do with the fact that Cyborg is a purple belt in bjj and Carano is a few steps behind her as far as ground skill
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09-03-2009, 08:06 PM
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I have said it time and time again that its just a shame that gina carano happened to be the first relatively attractive female mma-tist to come along..Because she lacks the drive,dicipline and confidence to not only be a top fighter but be a legitimate ambassador for the sport..All she is is a pretty face but womans mma needs more than that..She always has this "oh i'm just having fun and happy to be along for the ride" demeanour about her..She needs to step her game up because thus far shes been protected (until cyborg that is)
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09-03-2009, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Kreed
I have said it time and time again that its just a shame that gina carano happened to be the first relatively attractive female mma-tist to come along..Because she lacks the drive,dicipline and confidence to not only be a top fighter but be a legitimate ambassador for the sport..All she is is a pretty face but womans mma needs more than that..She always has this "oh i'm just having fun and happy to be along for the ride" demeanour about her..She needs to step her game up because thus far shes been protected (until cyborg that is)
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Have any proof of your accusations? IMO, Gina has fought way better well-rounded opponents than Cyborg before their fight. Gina defeated a tough striker in Young (everyone was so sure that Gina would get KO), and submitted a submission specialist in Evinger. Also, Gina never ducks a tough opponent unlike most MMA fighters
Last edited by QuackAttack : 09-03-2009 at 11:13 PM.
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09-03-2009, 11:56 PM
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Don't forget she kicked an awful lot of ass when Master Toddy took her to Thailand.
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09-04-2009, 01:00 AM
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Guys, i didnt mean to sound sexist that was not my intention at all.
but, there is a clear line between the level of tenacity and fortitude between the both.
Cyborg clearly fights way more aggressive than Gina period, if Gina is the face of Women's MMA then what is Cyborg??
Its all crap, Gina has that status because of her looks PERIOD
Watching Cyborg fight is much more entertaining and fun to watch, at the end of the day its a fight not a modelling contest.
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09-04-2009, 01:24 AM
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I'm not giving up on Gina yet. If she truly has the heart of a champion and has the desire to be a top contender in the sport, then I still believe she has potential and can learn from her loss. She will have to work her ass off for it though, it's not going to come easy. Female MMA has garnered a lot more publicity lately, and I suspect we will see stiffer competitors in the near future.
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09-04-2009, 08:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
Guys, i didnt mean to sound sexist that was not my intention at all.
but, there is a clear line between the level of tenacity and fortitude between the both.
Cyborg clearly fights way more aggressive than Gina period, if Gina is the face of Women's MMA then what is Cyborg??
Its all crap, Gina has that status because of her looks PERIOD
Watching Cyborg fight is much more entertaining and fun to watch, at the end of the day its a fight not a modelling contest.
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Being the face of women's MMA means that Gina is an ambassador for the females like Randy Couture is an ambassador for the UFC. It has absolutely nothing to do with being the best female fighter, and Gina has denounced being the face of Women's MMA over and over again. Not her fault that EliteXC was trying to hype into something that she's not. Gina has not once said that she was the best, and that she is still learning as a fighter.
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09-04-2009, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by QuackAttack
Have any proof of your accusations? IMO, Gina has fought way better well-rounded opponents than Cyborg before their fight. Gina defeated a tough striker in Young (everyone was so sure that Gina would get KO), and submitted a submission specialist in Evinger. Also, Gina never ducks a tough opponent unlike most MMA fighters
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Dude there arent really that many talented woman fighters at all so this is all relative
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09-04-2009, 07:41 PM
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There are, they are just having difficulty finding sponsors because of attitudes like yours.
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