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Jamal 08-30-2009 10:58 AM

Gina Carano: ‘I am a better fighter than the way I performed’ against Cyborg Santos
 
Gina Carano: ‘I am a better fighter than the way I performed’ against Cyborg Santos



http://mmamania.com/2009/08/29/gina-...cyborg-santos/

Props: Gina Carano.YardBarker.com

Quoteworthy:

“I wanted to take time to collect my thoughts and speak from the heart rather than spew out some cliché anecdote about a tough loss. I know I am a better fighter than the way I performed that night and was heartbroken to not give more to those who have been inspired. However, I find some relief in knowing that this has never been only about me, and now more than ever I feel freedom to learn and grow at my own pace. I make it a point to constantly remind myself throughout this journey who I am, what I am doing, and why. Life is the most amazing gift and I want to live it for the right reasons. To my family, coaches, management… thank you from the bottom of my heart for believing in me, loving and encouraging me. Also a special thanks to the fans who support me from their computers at home, watch me on television and scream for me in the stadiums. Because of you, barriers have been broken down and you have inspired me to believe in a larger dream. Congratulations to Cris Cyborg and the women of MMA who have a great platform to shine. I am more excited than ever for female fighters and this amazing sport which has transformed my life. God Bless.”

Gina Carano, the previously undefeated face of female mixed martial arts, issues her first public remarks after suffering a first round technical knockout at the hands of Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos in the Strikeforce main event on Aug. 15. It was a high-profile match with the first-ever female 145-pound title up for grabs. Carano, however, could not handle the early blitzkrieg from the Brazilian and eventually succumbed to strikes with literally one second remaining in the opening frame. So where does Carano go from here — immediate rematch or does she build up her record, and confidence, in a handful of other match ups before getting a rematch?

HaVoK 08-30-2009 12:58 PM

I firmly believe Gina has a strong will and huge heart. Like so many others, she needed this loss and I believe she will be back better then before. Good enough to beat Santos? Who knows.

T.Bone 08-30-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HaVoK (Post 983119)
I firmly believe Gina has a strong will and huge heart. Like so many others, she needed this loss and I believe she will be back better then before. Good enough to beat Santos? No.

Fixed.

Edit: I got negged for this so I feel I must explain my reasons further and why I think Carano would lose every time.
Carano's a very talented striker probably more so, technically, than Santos, however her physical attributes will never be enough against a women of Santos' size. Carano would have to develope so much faster than Santos skill wise to ever stand a chance and atm they're both still learning, and it seems, at a similar pace, it just so happens that Santos has and always will have the size/strength advantage, the point is that Carano would have to be miles ahead of Santos in most aspects of her game to stand a chance and as they're both fairly new to the game and still have a lot to learn, it just won't happen.

Jamal 08-30-2009 07:57 PM

IMO Gina will never be womens champ she fights like a WOMAN.

Look at how Cyborg beat her, she overpowered her and just hit her way harder, she fights like a man, she comes hard and fast.

Im not saying fighting like a woman is bad but if you wanna excel you gotta throw down like a dude, they reckon cyborg doesn't spar with women she spars with dudes cause she eats every female she spars with alive.

That says it all right there, Cyborg quoted it best

Q- How do you feel about Gina having the title of being the womans face of mma?
A - I dont care, she can have that title the one i care about is around my waist.

FCO 09-02-2009 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamal (Post 983561)
IMO Gina will never be womens champ she fights like a WOMAN.

Look at how Cyborg beat her, she overpowered her and just hit her way harder, she fights like a man, she comes hard and fast.

Im not saying fighting like a woman is bad but if you wanna excel you gotta throw down like a dude, they reckon cyborg doesn't spar with women she spars with dudes cause she eats every female she spars with alive.

That says it all right there, Cyborg quoted it best

Q- How do you feel about Gina having the title of being the womans face of mma?
A - I dont care, she can have that title the one i care about is around my waist.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with the statement that the female fighter that fights the most like a dude will inevitably win a majority of the time. Gina is so easy on the eyes, but that seems to be a weakness too. The "ideal" figure for a female fighter is one that resembles a man, and Cyborg has this advantage. That being said, Gina definitely makes a better "face" for women's MMA!

attention 09-02-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamal (Post 983561)
IMO Gina will never be womens champ she fights like a WOMAN.

Look at how Cyborg beat her, she overpowered her and just hit her way harder, she fights like a man, she comes hard and fast.

Im not saying fighting like a woman is bad but if you wanna excel you gotta throw down like a dude, they reckon cyborg doesn't spar with women she spars with dudes cause she eats every female she spars with alive.

If I was a chick, I would be completely offended ;)

But I have to disagree with 'why' she lost.

IMHO, she lost because she tried to beat Cyborg at her own game... striking. Not because Gina strikes like a chick, nor because she is built like a chick, nor because she lacks 'man'-like strength.

I think Gina came out guns blazing not really setting up a strategy... heck, Gina even gave up dominate ground position and let Cyborg stand up...i was in disbelief when she did that. Clearly she wanted to get the KO and got hammered back to reality that she could not out striker her.

I believe that Gina can get the title, but she wont get it by trying to beat Cyborg at her own game.

swpthleg 09-02-2009 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamal (Post 983561)
IMO Gina will never be womens champ she fights like a WOMAN.

Look at how Cyborg beat her, she overpowered her and just hit her way harder, she fights like a man, she comes hard and fast.

Im not saying fighting like a woman is bad but if you wanna excel you gotta throw down like a dude, they reckon cyborg doesn't spar with women she spars with dudes cause she eats every female she spars with alive.

That says it all right there, Cyborg quoted it best

Q- How do you feel about Gina having the title of being the womans face of mma?
A - I dont care, she can have that title the one i care about is around my waist.

This is just discouraging.

FCO 09-02-2009 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by attention (Post 986694)
If I was a chick, I would be completely offended ;)

But I have to disagree with 'why' she lost.

IMHO, she lost because she tried to beat Cyborg at her own game... striking. Not because Gina strikes like a chick, nor because she is built like a chick, nor because she lacks 'man'-like strength.

I think Gina came out guns blazing not really setting up a strategy... heck, Gina even gave up dominate ground position and let Cyborg stand up...i was in disbelief when she did that. Clearly she wanted to get the KO and got hammered back to reality that she could not out striker her.

I believe that Gina can get the title, but she wont get it by trying to beat Cyborg at her own game.

Ha! Yeah, it is kind of offensive but there is a lot of truth to it.

Anyway, Cyborg did out-strike her, and she is vicious! In response to the ground position, I was a bit surprised as well. But, in all honesty, I haven't really seen how good Gina's ground game is, and if she could have ground-and-pounded Cyborg. I would assume that Cyborg has decent BJJ because she is from Brazil... maybe Carano was afraid of her BJJ... I'm not sure.

QuackAttack 09-03-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by T.Bone (Post 983196)
Fixed.

Edit: I got negged for this so I feel I must explain my reasons further and why I think Carano would lose every time.
Carano's a very talented striker probably more so, technically, than Santos, however her physical attributes will never be enough against a women of Santos' size. Carano would have to develope so much faster than Santos skill wise to ever stand a chance and atm they're both still learning, and it seems, at a similar pace, it just so happens that Santos has and always will have the size/strength advantage, the point is that Carano would have to be miles ahead of Santos in most aspects of her game to stand a chance and as they're both fairly new to the game and still have a lot to learn, it just won't happen.

I think you guys are coming to conclusions way too fast. Gina will never beat Cyborg based on what? One bad night in the cage? And if memory serves me correctly, didn't Gina have mount twice? It seemed to me that Cyborg got off lucky that Gina was to reluctant to GnP Cyborg's face in. I will wait until Gina's next fight and see how will she does and if she learned anything, and I think you guys should too. A lot of renowned female fighters like Toughill and Larosa have stated that Gina could beat Cyborg. Cyborg isn't invincible like some posters are making her out to be.

Zemelya 09-03-2009 01:12 PM

disagree with fighting like a woman part.

Gina was not aggressive enough and lost the initiative there... That's what made the difference

Cyborg wasn't that effective in a fight with standup-less Japanese girl (Barnett's pupil)

Woman or Man style - one solid punch to the face will make change everything.,


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