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Negative1 · 09-11-2009, 02:43 PM

The guy is a miniature Hulk with power to put you on your ass. He is a scary dude and could make waves in any HW he enters.

My problem with him is that he pretty much has no respect for MMA in NA. If he wants to pull out of fights cause of 'broken hands' or he didn't eat enough horse meat that day, then fine, whatever. Quit signing up to fight in North America if you aren't going to do it for whatever reason. Even if that reason is steroids.

ericr · 09-11-2009, 03:07 PM

I might show him some love if he stopped doing the roids. Also his backing out of fights in the US show what type of person he is... which is.. one that refuses to fight unless he can roid up. Yea to me, he deserves no love.

Tomislav III · 09-11-2009, 03:19 PM

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One of my favorite fighters to watch in the pride era, Alistair is always reliable to push the action with great striking and decent sub game. You can always count on Alistair to absolutely crush cans but he sure as hell hasnt done very well against top tier fighters BUT he has looked pretty damn good in his last few fights and is absolutely massive looking as a heavyweight.

He looked great against CroCop until he smashed his balls into his stomach but for a heavyweight his speed and kickboxing skills are easily among the best. If Alistair can come into his own as a heavyweight Id say he will at least put on a damn good fight against Fedor since Alistair is pretty much strikeforces only hope for a decent match against the last emperor.

Overeem has a very underrated ground game too.

He's a solid fighter. Not the best in the world. But probably better than most HW fighters. He's way underrated, that's for sure.

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I might show him some love if he stopped doing the roids. Also his backing out of fights in the US show what type of person he is... which is.. one that refuses to fight unless he can roid up. Yea to me, he deserves no love.

You do realize that backing out of US fights isn't really proof that he's a "roid-monkey" right?

Aside from injury, there are plenty of reasons to not what to fight in the US.

The US has red-tape like you wouldn't believe! For all the talk about land of the free, you guys sure do like to regulate a lot. It's a headache just trying to right a contract in the US, so I can think of a few other reasons why he doesn't want to fight in North America other than that you guys test for steroids - like so many other places.

**Toxic** · 09-11-2009, 08:51 PM

Overeem is the most overated guy in MMA, Ive said it a thousand times the fact that Overeem is so highly rated by many while a guy like Jeff Monson isn't considered top 10 is a travesty.

joshua7789 · 09-12-2009, 01:35 AM

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Overeem is the most overated guy in MMA, Ive said it a thousand times the fact that Overeem is so highly rated by many while a guy like Jeff Monson isn't considered top 10 is a travesty.

I dont doubt that overreem has talent and with that talent added to his giant frame he has a lot of potential. But you are spot on when you refer to him as the most overrated person in mma. Im sure he has the ability to beat a lot of heavyweights, but until he starts to beat some of them then he shouldnt be top ten. And i definetely agree that monson being ranked behind this guy is insane. I think that monson would put a clinic on overreem as soon as this fight hit the mat.

kantowrestler · 09-12-2009, 02:25 AM

I think he will get his fight against Fedor and will have to earn his title shot again by fighting guys like Overeem, Rogers, or Arlovski!

**Toxic** · 09-12-2009, 02:32 AM

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I dont doubt that overreem has talent and with that talent added to his giant frame he has a lot of potential. But you are spot on when you refer to him as the most overrated person in mma. Im sure he has the ability to beat a lot of heavyweights, but until he starts to beat some of them then he shouldnt be top ten. And i definetely agree that monson being ranked behind this guy is insane. I think that monson would put a clinic on overreem as soon as this fight hit the mat.

Exactly, I mean Overeem's most recent undefeated streak is at 5 fights, one of which was a draw. His biggest win is over Paul Buentello who is always fun to watch but lets be honest is a gate keeper at best. His second biggest win would be debatable between Gary Goodridge who was never that damn good to begin and at 43 isn't making any drastic improvements any time soon or is it submitting a kick boxer?